See you on the other side

  • @marx2k@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    This absolutely feels like republicans setting themselves up for the “red wave” in 2020 that never materialized.

    • animist
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      512 years ago

      Yeah I feel like anybody who was gonna come to lemmy already did

      • I just got notification from bacon reader that I can’t use it anymore after almost 10 years. It was how I used reddit. I reckon a lot of folks will be getting that same announcement tomorrow, loads of iphone users especially. So I just deleted my account today. Reckon other people will do the same

      • Undearius
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        162 years ago

        While I want to agree with this, there have been a number of people saying they will stop using Reddit when the changes come into force on July 1.

        • animist
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          72 years ago

          Yeah people say stuff like that all the time. If they were really going to leave they’d have done it already

          • @xavier666@lemm.ee
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            72 years ago

            I heard that less than 10% of redditors use 3rd party apps. After tomorrow, I doubt that the whole 10% moves here. Maybe 5% if we are lucky (on unlucky if you are an instance owner).

            What really matters is how well the mods can manage the site without their 3rd party tools. Without them, moderation will suffer.

            • @Yook@lemm.ee
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              42 years ago

              The content on r/all was already dropping in quality during june. I was noticing I was getting into weird niche subreddit way earlier than usual, so hopefully that means all the post makers are starting to jump ship

              • @xavier666@lemm.ee
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                12 years ago

                I was getting into weird niche subreddit way earlier than usual

                Same for me. I was getting a lot of ‘suggested’ communities in my feed

            • @possum@lemmy.ml
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              42 years ago

              5% of Reddit is colossal compared to Lemmy’s current numbers. I think even 0.1% would be very noticeable.

              • Jamie
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                22 years ago

                I might be in the minority, but I actually like Lemmy where it is now. Sorting by new, there’s usually more new stuff than I can read anyway as-is.

      • Chainweasel
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        72 years ago

        There will probably be another wave. Simply for the fact that moderation bots are going to stop functioning tomorrow and Spam is just going to go through the roof. It all depends on how fast Reddit can get a handle on that situation.

        • @azimir@lemmy.ml
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          42 years ago

          Oh yeah, I’d forgotten about the moderation tools losing API access. The big subreddits don’t have the staff to manually fight all of that, especially with at least some of the senior/dedicated mods losing at least some interest in keeping things afloat. Pro bono work was already rough enough with tools to help. Remove those tools and it’s going to put a lot of people off moderating in a serious manner.

          • @Nythos@lemmy.ml
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            12 years ago

            Unpaid staff at that

            At what point do they just decide fuck it and stop trying to fight against all the spam and irrelevant posts because they simply just don’t have the means to anymore

    • Soliyou
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      52 years ago

      Yeah I don’t think there will be a significant drop in reddit users however I think they’ll be a noticeable drop in quality posts and comments. I think with many older gen redditors and experienced mods jumping ship there’s going to be somewhat of a void left in the wake.

      • Jamie
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        62 years ago

        Content already has been dropping in quality slowly. A few days ago people were talking about subs up voting Facebook level memes to the frontpage.

        • @azimir@lemmy.ml
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          32 years ago

          That was very much how the death of Digg felt. As the real users left, they’re upvoting and downvoting pressure that kept total trash off the front page waned. Soon it was nothing but total garbage posts and advertisers who were gaming the system. The content quality completely crashed and it just pushed more real users away.

          It’ll be interesting to watch how well Reddit weathers this and what comes out the other side. Digg still exists, but it’s a shadow of a shadow of its former self.

    • archomrade [he/him]
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      22 years ago

      And just like then, I will expect the worst and still be pleasantly surprised if the best somehow materializes

  • @spiderkle@lemmy.ca
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    272 years ago

    You know you fucked up, when even google gets worse for a few days, because of the subs you made go dark.

  • Kayn
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    232 years ago

    We’ll be celebrating a lot of cake days on next year’s June and July

  • @Koffiato@lemmy.ml
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    212 years ago

    I’ve seen people that use third party apps and had no idea about them going away. Let’s see if it effects Reddit in any meaningful way.

      • @eleitl@lemmy.ml
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        142 years ago

        The early adopters matter far more than the raw numbers suggest. There is no long tail for content creation and curation. Ongoing exsanguination will intensify. Prognosis is poor for this patient.

  • agilob
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    212 years ago

    Nothing drastic will happen or change, because it’s not users who will be leaving the site, but moderators, and still only a tiny fraction of moderators. Majority of subs will be exactly as they were a month ago. They would be leaving for lack of better moderation tools and API which lemmy also doesn’t have, so it’s not a real alternative to migrate to.

    The only thing that would make users start moving would be complete lack of moderation of top100 subreddits, which we know won’t happen because if one mod leaves, there always will be someone who will be happy and enthusiastic to be granted the dfake internet respect for being a mod of a major subreddit.

    • Hydroel
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      102 years ago

      Most 3rd party Reddit apps will be gone, and Reddit have shown willingness to move to a far more closed model than it used to be. Mods were and are not the only ones to leave.

      • animist
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        72 years ago

        Yeah people like you and me care about that, but let’s face it, if the average user cared about how shitty social media sites treat them then FB and Twitter would be deserts

        • @Hillmarsh@lemmy.ml
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          22 years ago

          FB is a desert compared with the old days, and Twitter will get there as well. Maybe the “AI revolution” can replace all the organic human content with fake people, but that’s about their only chance long term. If you can even call such a thing a “win”.

          • animist
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            12 years ago

            I hope that is the case with FB but according to my American friends it’s still the social media site of choice for racist uncles everywhere

      • agilob
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        12 years ago

        Only a few technical people care about it and it’s an ideological thing. Just wait and watch. Nothing will change, maybe things will break for a day or two, but by Thursday no one will remember it.

    • @Reliant1087@lemmy.world
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      52 years ago

      My take is slightly different. Apart from content you would find of Twitter/Instagram/Facebook/Tiktok, what makes reddit powerful is human experts, especially in STEM and tech. I see many of these people leaving and reddit becoming a meme + yt comments platform.

  • @alabastercello@lemmy.world
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    202 years ago

    I am 99% lurker and I joined a few weeks ago. I’ve been patiently waiting to see what happens with the amount and type of content after an assumed bump in activity when 3rd party apps go dark.

    I was an Alien Blue user for years before Reddit purchased it, then I was using Sync (and will be again soon with Sync for Lemmy). Reddit is essentially dead to me without 3rd party apps.

    • Jamie
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      32 years ago

      Deleted my account today and uninstalled RIF. They’ll be getting nothing from me.

      • @anteaters@feddit.de
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        32 years ago

        Strange feeling seeing the rif app missing from my home screen, it has been there for over a decade…

        • @azimir@lemmy.ml
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          12 years ago

          Ditto. I haven’t deleted it yet, but it’s been off the menu for a month and some now. Maybe I can put a custom icon on Jerboa to soften the transition?

    • Orange
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      22 years ago

      This is what made me come over here. So far seems like it has a lot of promise to be a great alternative

  • Variden
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    132 years ago

    Brace yourselves ladies gentelman and everyone in between. It will be hard.

  • ChopChop
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    132 years ago

    Too many implosions recently. I wonder what gives??

    • @JakeHimself@lemmy.ml
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      32 years ago

      Maybe they think the money they can make from companies using their APIs to train AI is worth tanking user satisfaction with their platform

  • Veedems
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    122 years ago

    I’m off Reddit fully but I don’t think it’ll be an implosion. With a few other apps striking deals, some will switch to those while others will stick with the main. I think mostly OGs and people more comfortable with tech are the ones who made the switch.

    • @StingJay@lemmy.ml
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      102 years ago

      I agree. Lemmy takes a bit to get used to. I think if content starts to get worse on Reddit, more people will get bored and switch. Hopefully by then those early kinks in lemmy will have been cleared out.

      • _TheLoneDeveloper_
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        32 years ago

        We first need to generate some content so new users will find information and enjoyment on Lemmy, otherwise there is no use for the platform, information got me on reddit in the first place, now information will keep me on Lemmy, I will try to generate some too.

  • @ardi60@lemmy.ml
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    102 years ago

    the real test is will Lemmy attain sustainable growth after this fiasco? or it is just temporary?

    • @erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml
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      82 years ago

      I think the hard-core redditers - those who aren’t just using reddit to find the best burger when they visit Houston - will stay here, or have more of a presence.

      At least that is my hope - “If you want Lemmy to be Reddit, just go back to Reddit.” As it were.

      Casual redditers don’t even know there are non-offical mobile apps.