Red Rover, Red Rover, send freedom on over

Someone commented on here the other day that they don’t use anything that uses AI. I had to point out that they were on Lemmy, in a contemporary web browser, connecting to a Linux server running inside of a docker container. I’m still not sure if they understood my point, but I’m glad someone else on here is seeing the ripple effect.

Yes

Wizard of Oz?

I cave, wtf is this?

not that I don’t think programming is art

My problem with calling programming art…

Thus adding the label is just an attempt to tack on unneeded elevation to the craft. In some ways the video supports my viewpoint. The debate over what is art is a bit tired. It’s worth having, but personally I don’t think it is needed in this case.

I’m going to be real, “Ok, I think it is art, I just don’t want it to be called art” is a wild stance is any other context. As an extension of that claim, I’ll say it is bogus in this context too.

I just explained how cars doing donuts create microplastics which is absolutely a harm to the environment.

As for the rest of your comment, stop making up random shit to demonize me so that you don’t have to listen to my argument. It’s frankly childish and awkward as hell to interact with.

Donuts in cars is not something everyone does. The skidmarks look trashy and ripping the tires up to do it generates a lot of microplastics.

I’ll admit that there are degrees to this stuff, but I’m not saying both are bad and so everyone should be hanged, but they should both be policed and punished accordingly.

Really, if you have a problem with any of that, then you are delusional buddy.

What are you on about? I’m saying to go after the people doing donuts and the pedophilles

Por que no los dos?

Ok, har har, but how would you actually like security at a large event like a no kings protest to go? What would you rather the police do differently than what is described in this video?

I mean, someone behaving suspiciously? To be honest, it sounds much like you think all black people are suspicious more than the lady in the video.

And car shows can get very rowdy - especially shows for more modern cars than classic or vintage cars. The botched car show in Gatlinburg TN a year or two comes to mind as a specific example.

Fuck flock, no doubt about it, but I really don’t see the problem with this training example. The no kings protest were/are held all over the US, sometimes for multiple weeks. It is an example most officers will have some degree of experience with, and monitoring large masses of people for safety is totally normal police activity. The trainer specifically mentions keep officers out of the middle of everything, and then monitoring large crowd activity for signs of calamity. Frankly, I’d consider that model behavior for security at a large event. Stay out of the way, and watch for violent crazies. If I thought police would actually do what this training described, I’d be much more supportive of police than I am.

Maybe I’m missing something obvious here, but why would you interpret “because of who is running it” as a racist dog whistle?

I’ve used the detectors as well. At my university, accusing a student of cheating is a big deal and you want to go into it with as much documentation as you can muster. Even though I know it is AI, I’m going to be showing it to administrators without my area of expertise and experience. Administrators like reports and numbers, so I run whatever the assignment is through a checker, let it generate a score over 90%, and now I’ve got a number inside of my paperwork that will encourage my supervisor, or more often my supe’s supe, to take my accusation seriously. Before these AI checkers, I used “turn it in”, and before that I had LCS tools and diff command.

Personally, I would have put the quotes around “criminals”

I mean, if you use the AI incompetently and lazily, then sure? I think if you use anything incompetently and lazily you’ll get that result. The trick is to not be an absolute dumbass and then you’ll be fine. Know what can and cannot do well, then use it where appropriate to take advantage of the 80/20 rule.

Oh brother, you have no idea, do you?

This shit is a cancer that has spread all through b2b processes. If you’ve bought gasoline over the last 6 months, all of that was coordinated via AI. Everything from order placement, rights trading & selling, distribution route planning, etc. it’s also worth noting how many phone support jobs have shifted to AI.

Pretty much all fraud monitoring for banks are run by AI now. Both checking transactions and if you call and report a fraudulent charge directly.

Further, you are using Lemmy right now. It is almost certainly running in a docker container, which a tool developed with AI contributions and an integrated AI feature set, and inside of that docker container is almost certainly a Linux distribution, which was developed with AI integrations.

It all ties back to my point that if someone was going to completely shun all things powered by AI, they would basically have to disengage with any system that has been actively developed, updated, or almost even just maintained over the last few years. It isn’t ubiquitous yet, but it is fast approaching that point.

Isn’t this, like, explicitly because of AI

I mean, more or less, yes? That is essentially the point that I was making. The old ways aren’t as effective anymore because they have been replaced with AI. And just not effective as in effective when compared to using AI, but not effective because the infrastructure, systems, and communities that made the old ways possible have been uprooted.

This thread of comments reads like you just now discovered bullshit corporate jobs exists. Welcome to 1985. Some books to help you navigate are: Dealing with people you can not stand, bullshit jobs, almost any work stress self help book, and arguably American Psycho - specifically the movie version but the book is fine. Embrace the 80/20 rule, don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, show solidarity with your fellow workers, and just play the game until you can reach a point to enact change.