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  • Commercial website feed shaping algorithm:

    • Promoter feeds you what you want (to addict you), not what you need (to improve your life), manipulating you to make money for advertisers. You may be allowed to follow things.
    • Filter omits what is banned or shadowbanned by the platform owner, manipulating you politically. You may be allowed to mute or block things.

    They decide what you think about and don’t know.


    Lemmy feed shaper:

    • Fuzzy promoter: You choose one from a handful of simple open source ranking algorithms (which can be fooled by bot activity)
      https://join-lemmy.org/docs/users/03-votes-and-ranking.html
      Unfortunately the default ranking promotes new content only, so older valuable content is forgotten.
    • Strict promoter: You follow what you want (tediously one by one - there are no associations between similars)
      This too lets older content be forgotten - you have to go and dig up your followeds’ content published before following.
    • Filter: You block what you avoid (instances, communities, users), but topics leak between communities (but some apps support keyword muting, which doesn’t work on pictures of text)

    Fediverse feed shaper lacks a defined topic hierarchy for accurate content tagging (of instances, communities, posts, replies, users) by users, preferably with web of trust between taggers.

    Quora had a precise topic taxonomy until 2023 or so - my feed was excellent (except for some spam, because no web of trust). Then the remaining co-founder enshittified it, filling my feed with viral click-hits.






  • Who made this?

    • I’d like it if it said Matrix is federated, Signal is not.
    • Meta should be grouped together.
    • Aren’t there other alternatives to Reddit than Lemmy, so there should be more arrows going out of Reddit?

    Something should be said about fringe servers (I’d never say “instance” except “server = instance”) and defederation both ways being common, so your home server choice matters. The email comparison is broken and should include “in principle” and then continue with “in practice [real situation]”. This is a start:

    I like the yellow bubble here, but it’s inaccurate in many ways:

    The infograph we’re looking for should also say at least:

    • Manipulation can be done by outside forces making fake users, not Fediverse programmers.
    • Censorship is done by server administrators and community moderators, but (on Lemmy at least) community and its server censor your post, not your home server. Might show a scale of servers where lemmy.world is at the strict end.
    • Your votes are public, you can be tracked, but it’s not done by default.
    • On Lemmy, you shape your default firehose (‘all’) feed by muting (users, communities, servers), not by up/downvoting or following. A normal person will have to mute tens of communities for the feed to start looking tolerable. This is one of the many prices of freedom you will have to pay, as are bugs and user experience issues. (AFAIK, no fedi platform uses votes for feed shaping, but many commercial ones do.)
    • The choices between apps or web-ui should be shown for each fedi platform.