That’s alright alright alright alright though - totally different… 🙄

We scare normal, non-techie people away. The Threadiverse in general and Lemmy in particular is very lacking in moderation capabilities, especially by not federating mod reports across instances (PieFed does that, but Lemmy does not).

There are barely any places that defederate from lemmy.ml, including PieFed.ca that you are on. Thankfully PieFed allows us to block all users from an instance, but new users will have to discover on their own that they even should do this, and until then will be exposed to all of their comments and posts.

Same. I almost left Lemmy, until PieFed allowed another option.

If you Google for “beans no pooping challenge” https://lemmy.eco.br/post/113558?scrollToComments=true at least appears on the first page of results - that’s progress, baby!

PieFed labels bots and bot-like accounts, allowing you to choose options like blur or show the content semi-transparently.

But they are accessible without needing a login account.

The peak for Lemmy at 55k is really really super tiny, in comparison to Reddit’s literal millions. Whether that’s a good or bad thing is up for debate, e.g. this very OP stating it as a bad thing, and people responding to it pushing back saying it is a good one, to have avoided being noticed more by bot brigades and large-scale disinformation and influence campaigns (which might be here as well, but there’s definitely less incentive for them to be).

The potential to attract large masses here I think does not exist. It could though, in theory, if we really did want it to and work towards it. The major thrust forward there that I know of is the PieFed software, which gets out from underneath many of the heavy aspersions that Lemmy is not even trying to distance itself from regarding authoritarianism. But PieFed is only used by a couple thousand people, and high ironically people are resistant to switch to it, just like others are resistant to switching from Reddit. It seems like it is human nature to remain in a place long after there become increasingly fewer reasons to do so.

That exact flamewar will never not be funny!! 🤣 So sayeth we all. 🖥️💻

Bc the answer will always be Mac if money were of zero consideration, Linux if someone lives in the real world, and only use Windows if there is both a gun to your head at that moment and a very specific game that you wanted to play requires it, and even then try emulation first.

It is actually! It is one of the features that I love the most about it, it saves so many clicks, plus the interruption of the wait time, especially for those posts that appear in like 9 communities (which for some reason isn’t nearly as rare as I might have expected, even though in those cases most communities will have like 0-1 comments, even if some others have >100).

That and maybe the the translation of all post links into relative ones on your local instance are perhaps my favorites of the recent additions. And the ability to read deleted posts instead of a page that looks more like a server error that doesn’t even acknowledge that the post used to exist at some point in time. There’s a lot to have to choose from!:-)

Bc people keep putting money into it, thereby incentivizing the continuation of the never-ending cycle…

Try to let it go and practice radical acceptance. What else has the slightest chance of you finding happiness? Do with this message whatever you will.

I heard that was highly community-dependent - the more high-profile a community the more likely for it to be removed.

PieFed has features that even Reddit lacks, like combining together comments across all cross-posts (and plans to tweak that still further, like add the ability to a community to opt-out of it, though I find that it helps with community discovery).

Not all of them…some wear white hats? 😜

There are so many interconnected issues there:

1. I thought “vibe-coding” inherently implies checking the output, but just as “patriots” or “believers” often do not actually believe in the principles that they espouse, perhaps “ai slop” would more rightly apply to much of the output, aka theory vs. actual practice
2. similarly for videos, “ai slop” by its technical definition implies only minimal checking of the output, however any output - whether checked or not - from an unethically trained LLM, and perhaps using a datacenter that privatizes profits at the expense of public funding (water), can be considered theft
3. so then is responsibly-trained output of AI, like using DeepSeek on a personal machine where someone pays for their own electricity, okay? What if an artist trained an LLM on their own OC, so then technically if such a person were to not modify their output (or do so only minimally e.g. slapping on a label for attribution) before sharing, would that be considered okay? That does meet the technical definition of “ai slop” though?
4. conversely, what about stealing memes on the internet and sharing those without attribution as to the source - why is that so very often considered okay and even somehow “good”? (let’s say for the sake of argument that we exclude those images that have been cropped specifically to remove the author attribution) Should we start calling those “human slop”, or “meme slop”?
5. piracy likewise steals content and shares - a huge difference there is attribution, but there are certain similarities to how common a"i" models also did not consider concerns about violations of copyright and IP. One is lifted up on the Threadiverse as being ethically good while the other is condemned as being bad. I know it is more complex than this… or at least surely it must be, but I definitely struggle with categorizing all of this in my own mind (perhaps the difference lies in the intent? one makes the common man happier. or perhaps the difference lies rather and/or with the output, where one of those two harms us all? but doesn’t the other as well, if less content is made from those sources that will not see their hoped-for ROI as a result?). Wow I really did not expect to open up this rabbit-hole… I guess just ignore this one for now. :-P
6. and then there’s the issue of whether content is properly labeled or not - I have far less problems (not none but less) with something labelled “made with ChatGPT5[, trained on <source>]” than with something that has no label on it whatsoever.
7. and finally there’s programming vs. video, yeah

I suppose I mostly have heard the phrase “vibe-coding” from its pro-ai proponents, while the anti-slop contingent has not really used a coherent phrase (so far that I have typically seen). I suspect because for coding, people have the expectation that you are supposed to be checking it, so the concern there is mostly on the low quality due to lack of degree of rigorous post-production checking, rather than the theft of input source - although I also suspect that most people have not really though the issue through very in-depth. I know I have not.

Calling poor-quality vibe-coding as “ai slop” could be a great way to shame it! :-P

With loads of upvotes and comments too. Whatever will we do…

Tacos and Assorted other latin american foods? T&A, obviously.

Its “grand entrance” must have been staged, having sent word in advance in order to give Saturn sufficient time to arrive.

You know, now that I think about it, I begin to question whether that is actually the real Saturn hanging there in the sky…🪐

He’ll simply get off at the next “stop”:-)