Little known fact about us Germans, we all act in unison as a swarm entity. When we vote, the election results are 100% for one candidate, everybody always supports every bill that is brought in parliament since our minds are melded together. We strive for unity and to bring you shitty fossil fuel cars. Eat our Sauerkraut to become one with the hive Gemeinschaft.

I think the vast majority of Democrats in House and Senate will bend the knee or just stay silent before facing persecution.

And everybody voting the furthest left viable is a flimsy strategy for fighting fascism. Many people already do that all the time, but you can’t make sure that everybody does. Also, with this there never was a chance to move the party any further left. Every election there was this myth that you have to vote moderate to change the party, but it never happened. Why should it? Moderates can say that the voters have shown they want moderate positions when they win. And when they lose for some reason they go, “Well, if you need them the most the progressives will stab you in the back. Let’s cut them out”. This is what I mean there are no consequences for Democrats, at least for the leadership that’s moderate and neoliberal. They will never move.

I’m seeing a lot of voter bashing but the same Democrats in power. I get the criticism against voters. They should have voted neoliberal. But the Democrats set this vote up to fail. They just don’t seem to get any consequences for it.

No, they aren’t. Expecting the Dems to get the vote by not being the fascists is a low standard. They have to present more than that. They didn’t, in fact, and now the party blames leftists for not voting hard enough when it’s their failure.

Jesus, when Luigi Mangione allegedly killed that healthcare CEO, it showed how the entire country liked seeing that, and the Democratic party has no idea what kind of campaign they could maybe run? I’m not saying they should run on a billionaire purge platform, but c’mon, maybe use your one billion dollar campaign funds for sending a message for you and not against the other one. Instead we got a 25k grant for a house purchase if you jump through three hoops. Wow, inspiring stuff.

And Hillary Clinton being characterized as making “no big changes” tells the whole story here. Her opponent went on a “drain the swamp”, “we’re going to make America great again” campaign and building up a hispanic and muslim scape goat. Everyone who is educated knew these were lies, but people were bad off, even then, and needed change. To be a hawkish candidate in a war exhausted society who runs on nothing but trying to achieve the first female presidential office is a weak attempt at saving America from Trump.

The amount of hatred against phantom leftists that on the one hand lost the Dems the vote and on the other were too weak to have their demands considered is crazy.

No, these people didn’t lose you the vote. They don’t even exist in this ambivalent form. It was everyday citizens that heard Democrats push the same racist border talking points Trump spewed last election and went “Hm, if even the Dems say this is a problem, I’ll vote the party that talked about how evil Migrants were for decades, the GOP”. It’s people tired of increasingly struggling to make ends meet and the Dems saying everything will stay the same, while Trump promised them change. We know that he just means destroying the last remnants of social security nets for poor people and everything that stands in the way for oligarchs making kaijulllian dollars. But people are stupid and desperate. Why can’t the Democratic party be held to a higher standard than whatever this is?

You can’t make the survival of democracy hinge on everybody having to vote for you because else it would be getting even worse. You actually have to present an option that promises that things get better. Significantly even, since most people in the US are absolutely struggling.

A fair bit of reform isn’t what people are hoping for. They want radical change. Trump in a fucked up way promises that even though we all know it will be disastrous and just even more oligarchy.

I don’t know much about Hillary’s campaign other than hawkish speeches against Iran. I definitely dont remember radical promises that truly make the lives of Americans better.

Now, Kamala definitely didn’t present any great ideas in her campaign better than 25k for houses if you fit some specific criteria. Tell me how that’s a radical idea to combat high costs of living across the board. At first, when she announced Walz she made anti price gouging remarks, but she seemingly dropped those. Biden did have some progressive policies (he couldn’t communicate since he was a mummy, but hey) which she could try to lift and use herself as a starting point. She didn’t. She did the “Trump was horrible, remember?” campaign which is a remix of Hillarys losing “Trump is crazy” strategy.

600,000 people are homeless. People are in endless medical or student debt. Prices are sky high. Billionaires are getting even richer. And Kamala can’t find a simple but radical slogan to combat one of these problems. Instead she says she’s not gonna change much when the perception is that Biden did too little . Even if Biden actually has been better than he could present himself in his tine, she should have said I’m gonna step up our game. Even if it meant hurting the feelings of a president with dementia.

Yeah, right. That totally makes Lemmy better. It’s so pleasant to always bicker and threaten to defederate from each other. It’s also so unlike Reddit where Subreddits brigade each other and have sub wars. Lemmy is so unique in that… /s

I think most people don’t realize how many nations who think about waging war against another nation value experiences taught in Ukraine. The usage of FPV drones has been shown as highly effective. Hell, even in Gaza there seems to be heavy drone usage on the side of Israel.

People should be worried about NK soldiers in Ukraine. That signals that they are interested to train their soldiers for modern warfare. In general the war in Ukraine has opened Pandora’s Box, now there is a willingness to use AI controlled drones in Radio jammed combat zones. Only a few years ago people shuddered about the thought of it. Now it isn’t even a big discussion.

All this to say Putin sucks. This invasion could be the start of a dark chapter in history and it’s just because he thinks Russian influence can only be maintained by military force.

Because it’s valuable to send troops to a modern conflict zone, so in the end you have veterans who can train the next batch of soldiers in drone warfare. I think South Korea is worried about this

I’d wish this was ploy, but frankly they just lack any back bone…

My guess is that they are saying this because in September 2023 they made a deal with Israel to buy their missile defense system. Instead of buying a European version with the French mind you, but that’s a whole other stupid fucking can of worms.

Well, October 2023 passed by and then it got a bit trickier over time to support Israel. But besides demands to maintain humanitarian care for Gazans, my government has done nothing of substance to stop supporting Israel. It is beyond shameful, this decision will haunt us in the future when Israel inevitably loses its position and we have to answer why we are so stupid to buy from Israeli right wing extremists (and the US) to begin with instead of starting EU projects if we have to. Not to mention the biggest thing, supporting open genocide.

We always talk big about EU stronk, but I can’t help to sympathize with the French (and other EU govs) when they are pissed at my country. We have taken the call every time the US wants something instead of considering European interests plus have run austerity for 20 years now in every government in the time period. We have a real knack for getting ourselves into a dependency of big powers, even Russia with their gas. We lack any vision how to fix our problems and build a strong European union while being the biggest member. Meanwhile the right builds it’s own vision, fortress europe. Thanks Merkel, thanks Scholz, you’re really good at managing.

All this to say my government sucks because they won’t arrest Bibi. Fuck that guy and frankly fuck Israel for committing a genocide. Thank you for listening to my Ted talk.

What a hilarious way to put it

First of all, the thing I was responding to was your comment on 3rd party voters who (last I checked) had less votes than were needed to bring the Dems over the finish line. Jill Stein is a grifter who is probably on Russian payroll, but she is not the problem.

Second, I can make the same argument as you: the party risked it all to run on a corpo interest campaign even though people were fed up on it, just so they hadn’t have to anger those interests by running a more successful one. Now queer people are in danger because of it. What you’re saying is that instead of a party running a campaign that hinges on misinformed people voting for them, on a platform that doesn’t do anything for them, these misinformed voters are at fault. It’s just not.

This goes into the third point, you say those were the only two choices Americans had. These choices aren’t static. We all had the same conversation when it came to Joe Biden being the nominee, people also were saying Dems had to change their candidate. But people like you were saying no, these are our choices, deal with it. But after the debate all of a sudden change was so easy and natural. Your argument is bullshit. Harris nominated Walz as VP and was lining up a more progressive stance. But after some neolib pollster told her that doesn’t win her stuff, guess what? She changed her campaign back. By the way the Dems should litigate for damages on these pollsters and open up homeless shelters in their offices.

The people are racist and misogynist. Everybody knows that. Most people are living paycheck to paycheck, can’t afford housing and groceries and would rather vote a fascist who promises to change things. The Democratic party set up a campaign that hinges on these peoples virtue and promised things staying the same as before instead of change. That is the problem.

Why would people vote for Republican Lite, if there’s the real deal? At least now we know chasing these Republican votes was foolish and that we should campaign on universal leftist points. Right? Right???

3rd party didn’t amount to shit. It’s the lack of a campaign that has any messages other than “vote us or you’ll get Hitler” and “we’re Republican Lite, the reasonable racist”. It’s the chasing of a handful of Republican voters which didn’t amount to shit instead of coming up with popular progressive points that are simple and effective.

50k for a home loan if you’ve been a good boy is weak. Pro military shit is exhausting. Doing nothing on Gaza was unpopular, but hey AIPAC loves it. Saying you won’t do anything different from Biden was sweet and touching for Old Joe, but a horrible idea to win an election where he’s been unpopular.

You just can’t fathom that this is the Democrats fault, eh? It was their Republican Lite campaign, so it’s their fault. Not young people, not Latinos, not muslims. Leftists couldn’t say shit about how this wouldn’t workall year, because that would only help Trump. Now they’re at fault. Maybe you can think about a course change for once instead of blaming anybody but the party elites that are only invested in donor interests.

Harris had the slight problem of 4 years of being VP to Biden where people aren’t better off and then saying she is basically doing the same as Biden.

And people are misogynist and racist.

I think your boogeyman leftist who scolds people who wanna vote Harris had a marginal to no effect on the results.

In my opinion people who vote Trump are of course racist and misogynist but also desperate for change. And I think they are stuck in Republican media that tells them Trump doesn’t really wanna infringe women’s rights that much and immigrants are roving the country, wrecking communities. They are stuck with sky high cost of living with no change in their wages for decades and to them Trump will bring change to the system, I don’t know why but apparently they do. And his solution is outlaw being different. You and I know that’s not a solution to anything, but they buy it.

I believe their plight is real, although their world view about other people and what the real problem is has nothing to do with reality. But Democrat messaging amounts to “everything is fine, we’ll keep everything the same” and nobody believes that. Harris has some good policies that she brought up once or twice, but for the most part she goes with the 50k home loan if you’ve been a good kid thing. That won’t change shit for people who aren’t even close to buying a house. Lead your campaign with anti price gouging policies for example if you want to campaign with something people want and understand. I could go on a rant about catering to right wing voters as well and how it’s a stupid strategy.

The problem people like you seem to have is your belief that people are only obligated to vote Kamala and that you expect them to have the same level of trust in the Democratic party as you. They aren’t and they don’t. The party establishment insist that the number say the economy is growing therefore everyone is fine. Is that really the vibe that people are feeling?

Do you think leftists were the reason Donald Trump got voted?