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  • Urist@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.ml•NAziTO doing Nazi things LMBO
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    17 days ago

    Firstly, “we” are not friends with any of the capitalist states, at best circumstantial allies. Secondly, I agree on NATO’s importance for the US, it is an interdependency after all.

    The capitalists are not under political control, we both know it’s the other way around, so why would we expect them to subject their private wealth to financial discipline based on the strategic ambitions? They are not about to abolish capitalism, but strategically reposition themselves to maintain it.

    We are also talking about different groups within the capitalist class and different time frames. The military dependency will take more than a decade to change. The investment in US stocks is record high right now due to the current financial bubble, working as intended of course, vacuuming the world for surplus value.

    The contradiction remains unsolved and will increase when the bubble bursts, fascism rises yet even more and the US gets absolutely demolished by China due to the difference in long term planning and industrialisation.


  • Urist@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.ml•NAziTO doing Nazi things LMBO
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    19 days ago

    And I say you’re simply wrong

    I have no problem with that. Disagreeing about the analysis is okay. The reductionist dismissal that I was doing a moral argument, I could do without.

    I will not reject the possibility of your conjectured outcome either. However, I do find your analysis lacking on the part of Europe having no enemies. The nightmare scenario for the European elite is not solely Russian aggression, but getting tag teamed by both Russia and the US.

    The crux of the issue is this: The US is threatening explicit subjugation if we do not play ball, and increasing vassalization if we do. The contradiction/compromise of NATO is shifting. The US needs and demands more from its vassals, I agree, but the vassals are eyeing an opportunity to reposition themselves in the emerging new world order.


  • Urist@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.ml•NAziTO doing Nazi things LMBO
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    19 days ago

    We are going towards a multipolar world order and Europe knows it. There is no going back and this is not just theatrics. The “defense spending” in reality is buying independence from US vassalization. They are purposefully not buying American and laying the groundwork for another alliance where they are not subjugated.

    Since I am not really getting anything for free here: No, this is still not a moral argument. The argument is that the capitalists of Europe will seek return on this investment. Trump going away, and who is to say he is, is not going to change this materially.


  • Urist@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.ml•NAziTO doing Nazi things LMBO
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    19 days ago

    Where did I say anything about morality? I said the material support has fallen, which is a drastic shift for the lackeys of the empire. They absolutely had the cowardly option, like they always has, to let the US use their bases, defend their actions diplomatically and provide military and logistical support after the initial invasion.

    The support is not there (comparatively to before). The old NATO is dead and its not just an unspoken truth anymore. The European countries are preparing to split with the US, mostly because they fear to be abandoned, but the material steps already taken will ensure that ultimately they will renegotiate the compromise NATO always was for them.

    Which is why we should pay attention to how defiant (read on a toothless European scale) the rest of NATO has been post the Greenland crisis. This will increase as the material dependency on the US as a security guarantee falters further.



  • Urist@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.ml•NAziTO doing Nazi things LMBO
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    20 days ago

    To be fair, many of the imperialist wars in the middle east have been joint military operations of certain NATO members. They have not really been sanctioned NATO operations though, with quite a few in NATO in opposition to the wars.

    That being said, the distinction may seem meaningless when NATO resources are used by the imperialists anyway. However, the level of material support for the US agression towards Iran has been less than before, maybe even remarkably so.

    The point is to be historically precise so that we can identify the development of the fracture of US domination within the imperial core.










  • Urist@lemmy.mltoWorld News@lemmy.world•Iran war has cost US $37.5bn so far, Hegseth says
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    3 months ago

    I have no sympathy for Americans caring about the tax payer cost while ignoring their complicity in imperialist wars (yes, it is plural). If you are not protesting as hard the annexation and extraction of Venezuela’s oil, the embargo of Cuba (shit, I am getting tired of listing crimes against humanity), you are not protesting war, you are protesting losing and you should not expect anyone in the world to feel sorry for you.