I don’t believe I disagreed with the assertion that the DNC leadership wants to make sweeping changes. I said that they are NOT some type of controlled opposition. If they were, they wouldn’t be fucking up as hard as they do at every aspect you stated. They are a combination of inefficient, out-of-touch, greedy, and… Lazy, but like they want everyone to like them which makes them inauthentic?

I think it’s unrealistic to think the DNC is smart enough to undermine everything but somehow not smart enough to just… Lie better? You know? Why bother being so fucking pathetic when it is easier, cheaper, and faster to just lie? Why make an autopsy on why you lost the election and burying it because of your Israeli money ties if you were a genius and could just make a fake report that blames progressive policies real fucking easily.

Like, sure, call them sociopaths and everything because the DNC is having to defend legitimately bad positions in spite of its supporters opposition because money, but don’t pretend that is out of some masterminded technique. They are not that smart.

I think you’re wrong. Or rather, I think you’re mostly wrong.

Like, in no way do I think they are extremely good at what they do, unless your argument is that they don’t give a shit, which I also think is wrong. They definitely want to win. They definitely want to control things. They literally make more money (not the organization, mind you, the people who run the organization) when they are in control. It is silly to think otherwise. Heck, it is safer, too!

But, I think they are quite dumb, or maybe it’s better to think of them as out of touch. They rely on political calculus, but they’re using some pretty bad variables. Because otherwise, there wouldn’t be any progressive Democrats at all. Like, that is inherently detrimental to their centrism. Giving crumbs isn’t as useful to them as people say because it let’s others know how hungry they are for more of that. Hope is contagious.

I think they work with what they got, and what they got is so rapidly changing that they freak out and pick what they think is the safest option over and over again. And their base hates it, but they’ll deal with that part later, there’s just too many fires for them!

Like, sure, there’s a little bit of trying to control how progressive they can be, but they just… Suck at that, too. I dunno, man. A lot of people can skate by on incompetency, and that just feels more likely.

True. A general strike is great. We don’t have a good foundation for general strikes and worker protections right now, though. So, we’d probably have to get that structured first. Funding is a little harder to control. That would require some sort of tax withholding, which seems harder to do, but I’m not an accountant. A lot of our taxes are taken out by employers, but you could argue about a federal income tax strike or something. I’ve heard people considering it.

But, you see, that’s a lot harder to see on its own. Those aren’t ways to accomplish them. Right? I think pushing people to set up mutual aid groups and such is going to help coordinate that planning. You’ll need food, housing, and money for a prolonged general strike, as well as a means to coordinate. People have to work together, and that takes talent and dedication.

So, for fun, what are the things that need to be done? Would you mind listing them out and explaining how to do them?

Personally, I’m not the one complaining about people not doing enough. Just hypocrisy, so I want to be fair and give you a shake. I think writing these messages is fine because it won’t take away from other efforts, and it does get under Trump’s skin when people call him a Nazi pedophile. You know, because of all the kids he raped.

This is a silly take. Like, I get the concern, but, like… Why are you here instead of “ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING”? It’s super hypocritical because if you think that’s not an act of resistance and they should do stuff, then what the fuck are you even doing typing on the internet?

If you’re gonna complain, at least post a list of things these people should be doing and how to do them. That way, you’re at least a step above the thing you’re criticizing, lmao.

It took maybe a minute to find a comment, but okay. But it does seem like she would not have been interested in you if she knew you better before that.

Would it help if I gave you relationship advice?

That’s not what was presented to the Supreme Court. This wasn’t a ban on kids being transgender or having anything medically done outside of their household. It’s about hiding it from their parents. And the people crying foul about bad parents out there should probably take another look at eugenics then if they don’t like what some parents are doing.

Idk man, it sounds like you probably weren’t their type.

Okay, I guess no one was illegal on that land either. Now what’s the problem?

You’re being really unfair. Trump very well could’ve also killed children.

Well, no, that’s incorrect. I said partner_s_, buddy. At least get the basics right when you’re gonna ignore facts. I do like that your take is that an article about women who talked about their experiences with alpine divorce were definitely people who wanted to be abandoned, that sounds correct.

You are a sad weirdo.

I would argue that all of them did not want to be abandoned, yes. But let’s go through them one by one.

Saying “fuck it, just go” sounds like someone who was being pushed to a point where they got frustrated and then exploded on the other person. That definitely sounds like she didn’t want to be abandoned but also that she didn’t want to be forced at the same pace. That doesn’t sound like a case of someone wanting them to leave them behind, especially because they, you know, did say that they were abandoned, ya know?

Person two, same deal. I do not think she wanted to be left alone.

Person three, four, or five, same deal. I do not think they wanted to be left by themselves. That… That is what abandoned means, buddy. Do you not know what abandoned means?

I don’t know where you are getting that the issue is “women are defenseless”. The issue is pretty clearly that these particular women and several like them have been abandoned in unfamiliar places when they did not want to be. If they did, why the fuck would they be complaining about this behavior?

But also, I am arguing that the person I replied to was definitely a misogynist. Or would you like to defend them? I can find you some of their very sexist comments and you can pretend they’re not sexist or whatever and then go back to what I assume will likely be you complaining about circumcisions, but I don’t have time for making fun of you properly. I will just have to assume you’re an MRA now and then not be surprised later to find that it’s true.

Well, in spite of the fact that the person I replied to is definitely a misogynist (and thus sexist), I would argue that there is one hundred percent an intended bias in their message to try to defend men’s (specifically) behavior when it is abusive by downplaying it.

But, thank you for standing up for women! I was unaware that women being infantilized was, in fact, more sexist than saying it is okay for anyone to abandon their partners when they explicitly did not want to be abandoned! Was that your message? Because it’s weird that these women were saying they didn’t want to be abandoned and yet they were and that that fact must be about them being defenseless and not about abusive behaviors on the part of those men. How strange. Can you explain that?

You want to know the fun thing about your fucking dipshitted lie? If you are a man and you call a domestic crisis phone line, they will still give you resources. Resources for abused men, be they straight, queer, cis, or trans, DOES EXIST. In bigger areas, they will attempt to direct you towards more specific help since there might be groups better geared towards your specific situation, but, like the fact you think that a women’s crisis resource would abandon men in need because they are men is such a fucking sexist lie. They might not be able to offer the same level of help, true. But they are there to help people in domestic abuse situations. Go fuck yourself.

I bet if you looked at the numbers, it happens to ciswomen from cismen a statistically large amount of the time. Like at least three times higher than the others per capita. I mean, that wouldn’t be particularly surprising to me because queer couples tend to have different issues, but I am gonna take a wild shot in the dark and say that you have maybe one queer friend and thus know very little about the relationship dynamics.

I think if your problem is that women are complaining about men is sexist, then you are preemptively trying to shield shitty partner behavior when it’s done by men. To me, that reeks of someone that thinks it’s okay to be abusive to women, which is sort of a shitty person indicator, which, as you indicated, is because you are shitty to others.

Lmao, I think most shitty people tend to be pretty fucking obvious. That’s sort of why people have common red flags. Like not dating people who talk down to others or who badmouth servers or who vote Republican. Because those warning signs don’t usually come out of nowhere, but I will grant that sometimes, rarely, shitty people do hide themselves.

It’s sexist in the way that it might depict only women suffering from this type of behavior, but I think that women do tend to be the major demographic that suffers from this type of behavior, which, to me, is a type of sexism that is nowhere near as harmful as the behavior it condemns. It’s not saying they can’t hike.

This type of abuse can happen literally anywhere. You’re out in the city and you’re not walking fast enough? Get ditched with no warning. And that’s the problem. There is usually some modicum of control that the people ditching (you can read this as men) have over the situation that leaves the partner in a vulnerable state. Sometimes they drove. Sometimes they know the way. Sometimes they have the experience. It’s an abuse tactic to do something like that.

So, idk man, calling this sexist and then pretending there’s some unrelated problem to address is a weird take.

Hm, maybe I’m just not in the same places, but I usually see less here than Reddit, but that’s possibly perception bias on my end. I just call shit out when I see it, and this post just looked like it was misogyny because of the… Well, most of it looked pretty misogynistic, but I suppose I was giving the writer some undue benefit of the doubt. That’s on me, actually, I should’ve checked.

I dunno, I guess I just feel sad for people that believe that shit. They are just so fundamentally unhappy with themselves and they don’t know how to fix it.

Lmao, I didn’t even check, but you are right…

I date. I meet plenty of women who tell me on the first date that I must give up something to prove to them my worth or dedication to them. Because the point of the relationship to her is for men to suffer for her sake, and anything the man pursues for his own personal happiness is a her losing out on what should be given to her.

Oh boy, no wonder they have a lot of bad breakup experience!

Well, no. Your post is ragebait. What’s behind it is the same thing it always was. It’s just, ya know, a trend of men not respecting their partners. It’s not new. It’s not dramatized. It’s just that typically men do not put in the same level of thought, care, and compassion for their partners as women typically do.

These stories are pretty standard abuse, honestly. I’ve heard similar types of things about shitty partners abandoning someone at amusement parks, concerts, and other venues because they got pushed into something and then didn’t “fulfill their end of the bargain” or keep up to the level that the first person wanted. Yeah, it is usually men that do this, but it’s not exclusively men. Just, ya know, most of the time.

Like, I don’t really understand how your bad breakup experience covers for this. You are downplaying the event without knowing both sides as well. Why is it okay to do that, but it isn’t okay for some to potentially dramatize it? You’re not even involved, so I think it’s worse to do this weird defending, because it sorta feels like you might be misogynist. Like, them’s the vibes.

I don’t know why you think it’s 90% of people making this up, but, uh, okay, buddy. There’s definitely no potential abusive behaviors here that a partner should look out for, it’s just 90% chance it was a bad day or a liar or something, and not shitty or abusive partners.

Lmao, EMTs make like $20 an hour, it’s straight fucked.