Essay | It’s Time to End Magical Thinking About Russia’s Defeat
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Putin has withstood the West’s best efforts to reverse his invasion of Ukraine, and his hold on power is firm. The U.S. and its allies need a new strategy: containment.

The US and Europe admit that they’re been believing in their own propaganda about Russia and Putin.

  • FuglyDuckEnglish
    0•1 year ago

    The problem, is that anyone who will replace him is going to be worse. Or at least, as bad as he is.

    What we should do, is run a psyops campaign to get him to get into it with China.

    • @salvador@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1•1 year ago

      Haven’t you just demonstrated that the problem is in you rather than in Putin or Russia?

      • FuglyDuckEnglish
        -2•1 year ago

        why? cuz I cracked an admittedly bad joke? the bit about psyops was meant to be read with tongue-in-cheek irony.

        Or are you saying that, because the people who hold power, and the lines of succession in russia are all universally awful, that’s somehow… my fault? or that I’m the problem?

        lets look at the people that would replace Putin, and some of their comments.

        Hmmm. yeah. all three are hard liners and ardent supporters of Putin who are just as personally invested in the war in Ukraine as Putty-bear is.

        • @salvador@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          0•1 year ago

          US and EU can’t stand it when a russian present, or any other one, acts in the interests of his country and its people rather than in the interests of US and EU. That’s why they have a problem with Putin, Maduro, Lula da Silva, Modi, Erdogan, Orban, Osad…you name it.

          • FuglyDuckEnglish
            0•1 year ago

            You’re, not entirely wrong, I suppose. (In part though, because it’s against our interests. We’re all pots and kettles.)

            Just out of curiosity, are you saying that Putin invading Ukraine is… okay? That we shouldn’t be helping out Ukraine? Or shouldn’t condem the invasion?

            Are you saying that genocide of the Ukrainingn people isn’t something that ought to be condemned? The rape, the murder, the forced relocation of civilians, the rampant destruction of farmland and industry, the insane amount of mining lending most land uninhabitable? The flat out destruction of most cities in the war zone?

    • @muntedcrocodile@lemmy.worldEnglish
      -3•1 year ago

      Doesnt matter if his replacement is just as bad or worse his replacement can go mission success all the nazis are dead time to go home. Putin cant pull out hes already too far deep

      • FuglyDuckEnglish
        2•1 year ago

        The people who’d replace him are in just as deeply. That’s the issue. They could do as you suggest they might, but they won’t.