Thousands of authors demand payment from AI companies for use of copyrighted works::Thousands of published authors are requesting payment from tech companies for the use of their copyrighted works in training artificial intelligence tools, marking the latest intellectual property critique to target AI development.

  • BrooklynMan
    link
    fedilink
    English
    12
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    i admit it’s a hug issue, but the licensing costs are something that can be negotiated by the license holders in a structured settlement.

    moving forward, AI companies can negotiate licensing deals for access to licensed works for AI training, and authors of published works can decide whether they want to make their works available to AI training (and their compensation rates) in future publishing contracts.

    the solutions are simple-- the AI companies like OpenAI, Google, et al are just complaining because they don’t want to fork over money to the copyright holders they ripped off and set a precedent that what their doing is wrong (legally or otherwise).

    • @goetzit@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      -42 years ago

      Sure, but what I’m asking is: what do you think is a reasonable rate?

      We are talking data sets that have millions of written works in them. If it costs hundreds or thousands per work, this venture almost doesn’t make sense anymore. If its $1 per work, or cents per work, then is it even worth it for each individual contributor to get $1 when it adds millions in operating costs?

      In my opinion, this needs to be handled a lot more carefully than what is being proposed. We are potentially going to make AI datasets wayyyy too expensive for anyone to use aside from the largest companies in the market, and even then this will cause huge delays to that progress.

      If AI is just blatantly copy and pasting what it read, then yes, I see that as a huge issue. But reading and learning from what it reads, no matter how rudimentary that “learning” may be, is much different than just copying works.

      • BrooklynMan
        link
        fedilink
        English
        92 years ago

        that’s not for me to decide. as I said, it is for either the courts to decide or for the content owners and the AI companies to negotiate a settlement (for prior infringements) and a negotiated contracted amount moving forward.

        also, I agree that’s it’s a massive clusterfuck that these companies just purloined a fuckton of copyrighted material for profit without paying for it, but I’m glad that they’re finally being called out.

        • @kklusz@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          -52 years ago

          Dude, they said

          If AI is just blatantly copy and pasting what it read, then yes, I see that as a huge issue.

          That’s in no way agreeing “that’s it’s a massive clusterfuck that these companies just purloined a fuckton of copyrighted material for profit without paying for it”. Do you not understand that AI is not just copy and pasting content?

          • BrooklynMan
            link
            fedilink
            English
            72 years ago

            Do you not understand that AI is not just copy and pasting content?

            show me where I claimed it was, *because I didn’t"

            don’t put words in my mouth then pretend to get all outraged about something I didn’t say, lmao

            • @kklusz@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              -2
              edit-2
              2 years ago

              Um, you implied it when you said the other guy was agreeing with you, when he was clearly not? How else could you possibly think he agrees? Piss poor reading comprehension perhaps?

              • BrooklynMan
                link
                fedilink
                English
                32 years ago

                Piss poor reading comprehension perhaps?

                you’ve identified the problem, but are in error regarding the person at issue.

                good luck with that ;)