Yeah, I think massive chemical batteries for storing excess electricity to facilitate a contrived green energy market is a bad idea.

  • Boomkop3
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    36 months ago

    It’s the densest option. The cheapest is probably salt/water or iron/water using scrap

    • @humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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      26 months ago

      LIthium Iron Phosphate is cheapest relatively dense battery type. Sodium ion will be if lithium get expensive.

      • Boomkop3
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        16 months ago

        You can draw an arbitrary line of density you find good enough. But with how much space us wasted in some countries, that line should vary a bit place to place

        • @humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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          16 months ago

          With 40 foot containers providing utility or smaller scale storage solutions of 2.9mwh per container with LFP batteries, that is about 170mwh per acre. Before stacking. I don’t believe a lack of density matters anywhere in the world. Spare space inside buildings is usually sufficient for building needs.

          • Boomkop3
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            16 months ago

            A lack of density definitely matters in some places. I’ve been to a bunch of countries now, some have plenty of space, some really don’t

    • @scratchee@feddit.uk
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      16 months ago

      Weirdly it’s not, except maybe gravity batteries where nice reservoirs happen to exist already. It should be but it’s not right now.

      Li-ion has economy of scale right now. I do think molten metal etc will overtake eventually, but they’re currently playing catchup and li-ion has dropped in price so much over time that it’s surprisingly cheap even where it should make no sense.

        • @scratchee@feddit.uk
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          16 months ago

          Dams are a normally a power supply rather than a battery. I was more thinking pumped storage hydro. Which is usually done where theres 2 lakes next to each other at very different heights, so you can “store” power by pumping water up and release by pumping back down.

      • Boomkop3
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        6 months ago

        I didn’t say molten metal, what? No just a standard chemical battery

        • @scratchee@feddit.uk
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          16 months ago

          I know, I just threw out one of the many contenders for grid power.

          Iron water does look promising too.