Vistra Corp's 3000-megawatt Moss Landing energy storage facility went up in flames on Thursday, in a blaze that is expected to remain contained to the building. "There are no active fire suppression efforts going on, as the best approach, according to fire staff, is to allow the building and batteries to burn," according to a Monterey Sheriff official. Both Vistra and the county official said that all site personnel had been evacuated and no injuries were reported.

Yeah, I think massive chemical batteries for storing excess electricity to facilitate a contrived green energy market is a bad idea.

    • @humanspiral@lemmy.caEnglish
      2•2 months ago

      LIthium Iron Phosphate is cheapest relatively dense battery type. Sodium ion will be if lithium get expensive.

      • @Boomkop3@reddthat.comEnglish
        1•2 months ago

        You can draw an arbitrary line of density you find good enough. But with how much space us wasted in some countries, that line should vary a bit place to place

        • @humanspiral@lemmy.caEnglish
          1•2 months ago

          With 40 foot containers providing utility or smaller scale storage solutions of 2.9mwh per container with LFP batteries, that is about 170mwh per acre. Before stacking. I don’t believe a lack of density matters anywhere in the world. Spare space inside buildings is usually sufficient for building needs.

          • @Boomkop3@reddthat.comEnglish
            1•2 months ago

            A lack of density definitely matters in some places. I’ve been to a bunch of countries now, some have plenty of space, some really don’t

    • @scratchee@feddit.ukEnglish
      1•2 months ago

      Weirdly it’s not, except maybe gravity batteries where nice reservoirs happen to exist already. It should be but it’s not right now.

      Li-ion has economy of scale right now. I do think molten metal etc will overtake eventually, but they’re currently playing catchup and li-ion has dropped in price so much over time that it’s surprisingly cheap even where it should make no sense.

        • @scratchee@feddit.ukEnglish
          1•2 months ago

          Dams are a normally a power supply rather than a battery. I was more thinking pumped storage hydro. Which is usually done where theres 2 lakes next to each other at very different heights, so you can “store” power by pumping water up and release by pumping back down.