• ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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        92 years ago

        That is the thing though, until you abolish class contradictions states are the most effective way of protecting the revolution and suppressing the bourgeoisie. So authority does equal self defense in a real, meaningful way.

        • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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          12 years ago

          No, since states can get couped. The most effective way of protecting the revolution is gathering the masses which can happen without the state, indeed, it has happened multiple time throughout history.

          • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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            12 years ago

            The most effective way of protecting the revolution is gathering the masses which can happen without the state, indeed, it has happened multiple time throughout history.

            Could you point to examples?

            • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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              12 years ago

              Anarchists in civil war in spain (until some of them decided to fuck off), I would say the makhnovshchina defended itself pretty well with the scarce resources they had, greek anarchists with their decades old squats, bolivian grassroots movements who helped Evo Morales get in power in Bolivia, etc.