Anything you say or do on Firefox may be used by Mozilla against you. You have the right to use a different browser. If you cannot find a browser that doesn’t fuck you over one way or another, one will not be provided for you because capitalism is working exactly as designed.

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-terms-of-use/

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/information-about-the-new-terms-of-use-and-updated-privacy/td-p/87735

#Mozilla #Firefox #TermsOfUse #SiliconValley #BigTech #USA #AI

  • Deebster
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    231 month ago

    The Privacy Notice doesn’t say anything problematic at all, why is everyone acting like Mozilla is going to be feeding every keystroke into a database/AI? It’s just saying that they’re allowed use your inputs to browse to the sites you’ve asked for, and to give the form data/uploads/mic/whatever to the sites you’re using.

    A few words cherry picked from the middle of a sentence isn’t how legal stuff works.

      • Deebster
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        121 month ago

        Yes, Mozilla does some AI, like the in-browser, privacy-respecting language translation. If you use the same feature in Chrome, the text is submitted to a Google server, but in Firefox it never leaves your browser. I don’t see how this could be spun to count against Firefox/Mozilla.

        • Aral BalkanOP
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          41 month ago

          @Deebster@programming.dev Uh-huh. Yep. Sure. Let’s give them every benefit of the doubt.

          • Iapar
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            91 month ago

            Is that how religion started? Someone not understanding how something works and then living life in fear of some imagined horror scenario?

    • Great Blue Heron
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      51 month ago

      I’m not lawyer, but my reading of it says they can use that to at least get you targeted ads. Is that not a worry, or is it not new?

      • Deebster
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        1 month ago

        In the advertising bit they say what data they use and it’s all broad stuff like device type and location, as well as aggregate data on how many people click on the ads. Of course, you can just disable this, which surely most people do - tbh I forgot there was even this “sponsored content” there at all (it was added a while ago I think).

        They don’t say that your browsing habits, interactions or communications are used for anything besides doing what’s required to actually do what you asked.

    • @4am@lemm.ee
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      31 month ago

      Wtf are you on about ? A browser does not need a TOS in order to serve you web pages.

      The only reason that you need a TOS is if you are collecting and retaining (and possibly analyzing) those user inputs on separate third-party servers.

      It’s a fucking wiretap.

      • Deebster
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        21 month ago

        The docs say what they do and don’t do - and they don’t do that. Just actually read through them for yourself, you don’t have to be a lawyer.

        This is just a bit of corporate box-ticking, but the pitchfork brigade has read 2 + 2 and is now screaming about 5s.