• @nthavoc@lemmy.today
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    110 days ago

    When I talk about right wing on here and mention magats, I’m talking about extremely to the right. They are so far right, they found a new dimensional plane of existence right. Nazi’s stole a lot of concepts that existed long before they did and corrupted them, including their symbol. The idea that capitalist concepts are the equivalent to nazi beliefs is way too far off base and that really muddies the waters. I would like to avoid Godwin’s law for meaningful conversation.

    Billionaires should have never existed and the people that were supposed to regulate the unchecked greed failed the public. All of these representatives and the people voting for them are absolutely the source in the billionaires’ rise to power. Remove them from power and the billionaires don’t get a free playground for their boredom. Red vs Blue (Right vs Left) is keeping the public fighting amongst themselves. Treat the source, not the symptoms.

    • @Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social
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      03 days ago

      No, Billionaires are always going to be a byproduct of capitalism. Saying that left vs right is inconsequential and just “fighting amongst themselves” is naturalizing and justifying billionaires. The left fights against billionaires and oligarchy while the right fight for them (even if they rhetorically hate “elites” like woke baristas).

      • @nthavoc@lemmy.today
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        03 days ago

        You keep bringing this back to capitalism. It’s greed. The answer is greed. Even in your communist paradise, greed ruins it. Even in a socialist utopia, greed will be there to remind you of the inherent evil that is ingrained in humanity. Focus on the greed and maybe you’ll make more allies instead of blaming a social concept.

        • @Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social
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          12 days ago

          No, even if individuals will continue to have greed or bad traits, if you don’t have a social system that allows accumulation of vast wealth or the use of the wealth to immediately control the labor and resources of society, you undermine the social detriment of these traits. This is why systems matter, it is what traits will be rewarded, and what is allowed to be indulged rather than resisted.

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            12 days ago

            Since you have time to ponder philosophical ideals, why not come up with a new system that does what you describe and prevents, if not mitigate, tribal mentality? Bear in mind you’ve only been describing wealth distribution. You still have to decide if you want this system you come up with to exist under a variation of Democracy, a monarch, an oligarch, or something completely new that won’t cripple your newly designed system of wealth distribution. Then you need to decide which “tribe” gets to run it without upsetting the other “tribes” . And here we are again getting the red tribe and the blue tribe to come to their senses and agree to something that doesn’t screw the rest of us.