• @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    So you want to fix things by electing the people who broke them in the first place. Genius.

    If two people are trying to kill you, you don’t pick which one to ally with. You defend yourself against both of your enemies.

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      7 hours ago

      That’s not what I said, but ai don’t know if what I say really matters to you more than acting smug does. Also, I live in a country with more than two parties and I do not participate in “strategic voting”.

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        7 hours ago

        It’s exactly what you said. It’s just not how you want it to be interpreted, because it doesn’t align with your self-image.

        A lot of people are groomed into supporting fascism by being made to believe they are somehow opposing it by backing a certain fascist. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are doing this right now.

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          37 hours ago

          The only way to read your comment as having any level of intelligence implies that there is a third option I’m missing. So what’s your alternative, then?

          And “no one votes for the Democrats while knowing that the nation is full of people who can’t afford to take the risk of a Republican administration” is not an alternative. I get the sentiment, but it’s not happening. I’d say it should be primaries, but the DNC doesn’t really do those and their weird, sequential primary is designed to allow them to shape the outcome as it happens.

          So please, enlighten us.

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            06 hours ago

            So then all your enemy has to do to convince you to surrender, is convince you that they are two enemies, and the next one will be worse.

            Democrats are killing people too. Not all of us are willing to continue sacrificing those people to maintain our privilege.

            The only viable & moral option is revolution.

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              16 hours ago

              You haven’t really answered my question, and I literally already told you that I know that the DNC uses that exact tactic. I also explained that I don’t vote that way. Gosh, you’re stupid.

              So what are you doing to start this revolution? What advice to you have for people who want to join in and do real, tangible work like that? Do you understand how big of a jump it’s going to be for the most vulnerable people to go from scarce instability to guaranteed instability and do you understand how scared they are and that they aren’t pawns in your little moral soapboxing?

              You talk about not wanting to sacrifice people but you’re demanding they be the foot soldiers in your revolution.

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                06 hours ago

                Discussing details would get the comment deleted, and possibly my account banned. I think you know this, hence the abusive goading.

                Asking people to risk their lives for each other is not the same as expecting the less privileged to die for you.

                • @Soup@lemmy.world
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                  26 hours ago

                  “Abusive goading”? We don’t need to talk about the actual act of offing CEOs(and I ain’t no snitch, mind). I specifically asked you about how you want normal people to make the transition to revolutionaries and if you don’t know then just say you’re pissed and, frankly, that’s ok because we should all be pissed right now. Hell, I’d be ok with you acknowledging that people are right to be afraid of the risk. And I’d still like to know what you’re doing and I imagine there is something non-violent, right? Like, how many protests do you go to and are you willing to skip work to go to them?

                  I’ll even say it for you that I’d love to see more Luigi events happening but I also understand that that’s a lot to ask of someone and if I’m not willing to do it myself then I have no moral ground to stand on to be making demands. We can both agree that it makes sense why you wouldn’t want to respond to that particular sentence but you need to understand it.

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                    16 hours ago

                    Ok. Buy a gun, join a local SRA chapter, join the local PSL chapter, learn to grow some food, form up a community with your neighbors, get a mask that’s effective against tear gas, read What Is To Be Done?/Guerrilla Warfare/This Nonviolence Stuff’ll Get You Killed, pack a go-bag, etc.