cross-posted from: https://50501.chat/post/206911
First, Trump issued an executive order to militarize domestic law enforcement. Now a new order has come out. Buried in Project Homecoming, the executive order just released by the White House, is the single most dangerous shift in American civil liberties in a generation.
The same man who empowered ICE with military-grade surveillance, armored vehicles, and counterterror tools is now pushing the legal justification to detain people indefinitely.
The administration is laying the legal groundwork to suspend habeas corpus, the constitutional right that protects people from being detained without trial. It’s the right to not be disappeared. It’s the foundation of due process. And they’re getting ready to tear it away.
How? They’re invoking the Suspension Clause of the Constitution, which only allows habeas to be revoked “in cases of rebellion or invasion.” Stephen Miller and the Trump legal machine are now planning to label undocumented immigration as an “invasion,” which would let them bypass courts and jail people without charges, trials, or legal representation. The administration is trying to reclassify undocumented immigration as an invasion to unlock those powers. That’s the strategy.
Let that sink in. They’re preparing to create a class of people who can be detained indefinitely without ever seeing a judge.
Ask yourselves, If anyone can just be disappeared off the streets without charges, without court appearances, without access to a lawyer then do we still have a democracy?
This is just the beginning, it won’t stop at immigrants. So let’s be clear about what this will look like.
Indefinite detention. No due process. No hearings. No legal protections. We’ve seen this playbook before in history—and it always starts with creating a legal exception for a specific group. In this case, it’s undocumented immigrants. But legal exceptions do not stay contained. Once the precedent is set, it expands. Always.
Ask yourself: who defines what an “invasion” is? Who decides who qualifies as a threat? Protesters? Activists? Whistleblowers? Once the right to challenge detention is suspended for one group, the door opens to expand it. That is how authoritarianism consolidates power.
While they call this “restoring order,” here’s what they’re really doing:
They’re tearing $96.7 billion out of the economy. That’s how much undocumented immigrants contributed in taxes in 2022, Specifically:
• $59.4 billion in federal taxes
• $37.3 billion in state and local taxes
• $33.9 billion toward social insurance programs they are banned from accessing
Again, these are people paying into Social Security, Medicare, and public infrastructure they’re not even allowed to use.
The source? The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy. Read it yourself. https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
California alone would lose $8.47 billion in annual tax revenue if these mass deportations succeed. Texas would lose $4.87 billion. New York? $3.1 billion. Every state would feel the economic gut punch. And don’t forget: these are programs undocumented workers pay into but cannot use. They’re helping hold up a system that offers them nothing in return.
Now ask yourself: who is going to make up that lost revenue?
You. The poor. The working class. Not the rich, who continue to dodge taxes with impunity.
The federal government has already slashed funding to the states. Wealthy elites are sitting on tax loopholes and lower effective rates than working people. The answer is obvious: the working class will be left to cover the difference. Your rent, your healthcare, your school funding—all of it will take the hit.
What we are watching is economic sabotage wrapped in xenophobic theater. It is designed to scapegoat immigrants, distract from billionaire tax breaks, and destroy civil liberties in the process.
We have reached a dangerous tipping point. A government openly discussing the suspension of habeas corpus is a government no longer pretending to be democratic.
Habeas corpus is the line between freedom and fascism.
If we let this fall, there is no turning back.
This is the moment where people either pay attention or pay the price. Be ready.
Read the order. Learn what’s happening. Sound the alarm. Talk to your communities. And above all, do not get used to THIS.
Originally Posted By
u/transcendent167At2025-05-10 10:37:42 AM| Source
I’m more concerned with the person that won’t state their case, but expects someone to defend against it. I’m not playing dumb. I’m playing smarter than you. I’m not going to walk into a verbal trap where you get to me to say something and you immediately take the opposite stance in an attempt to discredit me. Your trap isn’t well disguised. The fact that you won’t come out and plainly say what you mean tells me that you don’t have a stance of your own, and only seek to trap others in their words so that you can derive some power from telling them that they are wrong. So, that’s your choice, you can give me your side, and I can see if our views match, or you can keep on with how I’m “playing dumb” while simultaneously giving nothing of value to the conversation. You’re the one that keeps bringing up genocide, it’s weird you seem to not want to talk about it.
Lol. That’s some next level evasion. But sure, keeping playing dumb, I’m sure people will see you obviously and deliberately pretending you don’t understand and will take you very seriously.
You’re right. I should take the topic of the Native American genocide more seriously. I’ll take this time to make the blanket statement that I am fully 100% against the actions of the early settlers against the native population of the Americas, and I think that the current treatment of Native Americans is not humane and should be looked at to ensure that their cultures and ways of life are preserved and their living conditions improved.
Who exactly are you trying to convince by deliberately playing dumb like this? Yourself?
I’m just waiting on you to make a fucking point. You want to have a debate about genocide, but won’t talk about the genocide that you seem to want to talk about. Spit it out, champ. Say what you mean plainly, provide documented evidence of the American President ordering the genocide of a group of peoples, and then we can talk. You want me engage in a debate that hasn’t started, and I literally can’t do that.
Again, who do you think playing dumb is going to convince?
I’m not playing dumb. It’s pretty fucking obvious that you want to talk about Isreal and Palestine. So, go ahead, talk about it. Tell me what you think about it. Who knows, maybe we agree. Won’t know until you tell me what’s on your mind, bucko. You wanted to talk about it, so fucking talk about it.
Really? Because you just spent the last half dozen comments pretending you didn’t know, even going so far as to pretend you thought I was talking about native American genocide.
Aka. Playing Dumb.
I did, you’ve just spent so long wasting time playing dumb that you’ve forgotten. (Or, more likely, you’re still playing dumb)
So, you believe that President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris committed genocide in the conflict. How so? I don’t want to put words in your mouth, so please state your case here so that I can have a clear understanding of your point.