WikiTok
Not sure if there’s an app yet, I found one on the Android store by Arakassia…
Most “apps” are just http web hooks to a regular website backend with extra tracking telemetry. So a website working as a PWA should be enough for everyone.
I hate how everything has to be a fucking app, because it doesn’t need to be.
If phone OSes made it so there’s less friction to save a web page as an icon on your desktop it would help to resolve that issue I think.
I think that’s only partly true as companies, especially big ones, want the telemetry and control of a native app instead of just a web page
They also want the ability to make you agree to a TOS with an arbitration clause so you can’t sue them when your wife dies because they screwed up her food.
Proper PWA websites save very well to phone home screens (like voyager for Lemmy!)
It’s just two taps in browser to get it on home screen.
It’s so easy, even on iOS. Just tap share and add to Home Screen. It’s probably just as easy on android.
It’s very easy.
Chrome let’s you do “install” websites to home screen, Firefox allows saving shortcuts to home screen.
The annoying thing is that you can’t save them to the app drawer (at least on vanilla android), so if you have a clean home screen you have to sacrifice that.
Yep, you’re 100% right. Not sure why I thought it was high friction. I feel like I confused trying to put an icon for an image on my home screen (gym app’s sign in QR code) with sending a web page to the home screen.
At least on android I was able to just add a link to the home screen in Firefox.
On android:
- Open link in Firefox.
- Tap the three dots.
- Tap “add to start screen”
There’s your app!
On iOS through Safari:
Tap the Share icon
Scroll down a little.
Add to Home Screen.
Profit?
I’m still scrolling. Will it ever stop???
help me.
Seems to work fine as a PWA-esque shortcut on iOS for the time being
“Some people just wanna watch the world learn.”
endless feed
to fight algorithm addiction
endless
feed
to fight algorithm addiction
Uuuuuh that’s not the way to fight an addiction, right? Who is this person working for, exactly?
Think of it as a methadone clinic for doomscrollers.
I may have a problem
We’re here to help! We just need someone to implement doomscroll / infiniscroll into Lemmy, lol.
Honestly the fact that Lemmy doesn’t have infinite scroll (on my UI, at least) has helped me a lot in terms of not wasting hours at a time on my phone
I’ve got news for you: basically every app I’ve used so far for lemmy has infinite scroll. Currently Thunder previously Sync.
Oh dear!
If methadone was also educational 🌈⭐
More like a brothel for sex addicts.
Jesus. Enough hyperbolic nonsense. Browsing Wikipedia is way healthier than doom scrolling.
And doomscrolling Wikipedia is still healthier than doomscrolling anything else.
I don’t think there’s an algorithm involved actually. Just lovely facts.
Well, there has to be some kind of algorithm. Even picking a random Wikipedia article technically is an algorithm, just not one that adapts to the user
True, but outside CS the word has come to refer to a certain brand of complex heuristics or ML inference.
An algorithm usually involves lots of complex calculations and weights. Picking a number from a pool of numbers at random is as simple as it gets.
In comsci, there are no real random numbers. They are all seeded psuedo-random number algorithms. (Unless you integrate with some third party random as a service setup)
Yes but the common interpretation of “the algorithm” is that of the social media and YouTube style one. Recommending items of interest etc but easily manipulated by bad actors.
Wiki random is about as opposite to that as possible.
The modern interpretation, sure.
And agreed, “random, you might like this” is not as random as “here is a page on red food colouring”
That’s a common misconception. You can measure a lot of ambient noise and extract entropy. Like time between inputs or how long it took an HDD to seek.
Most modern PC CPUs even have dedicated hardware for generating random numbers from electrical ambient noise. I don’t trust them however.
That’s why I said seeded. Seeded from noise. The random number generator (function) is still an algorithm…
Right, but in the context of social media feeds, “algorithm” always refers to an algorithm for personalised content.
Think of it as taking methadone instead of heroin.
Ironically, my overly chatty doctor was ranting about how methadone is a racket and they string people along for years instead of titrating them off. He prescribes Suboxone, apparently.
This is pretty awesome. I do see the need to be able to add categories of interest. Like follow history, the arts, etc. Cool regardless.
“I have had plenty of people message me and even make issues on my GitHub asking for some insane crazy WikiTok algorithm,” Gemal told Ars. “And I had to put my foot down and say something along the lines that we’re already ruled by ruthless, opaque algorithms in our everyday life; why can’t we just have one little corner in the world without them?”
The developer seems staunchly anti-algorithm but I feel like some sort of filter system would work well. I know nothing about development but the same level of randomosity (it’s a word don’t look it up) but for specific topics would be amazing.
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Algorithms themselves are fine. It’s wikipedia. I’d actually use it if it brought me to interesting pages based on a recommender algorithm.
Yeah this is just the wiki random button with a simplified TikTok gui.
Pretty much a useless site which is a shame since I was excited about it.
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It needs the TikTok algorithm
Just found this article that for some reason has me dying of laughter: ICBM address
That’s hilarious
If you enjoy this, have a peek at The Jargon File. Classic hacker slang is something else.
Thank you for this. Very interesting read about hacker speak.
I love this. ICBM address is a very clever joke.
Would be cool if the official Wikipedia mobile app integrated this functionality! It does have a ‘random articles’ card, but it’s nothing like this.
Not sure ‘addiction’ is being defeated here, though 😆 Like if I’m addicted to sausages, giving me bacon instead isn’t really solving the root of the issue. The issue being those sexy, sexy pigs.
The addiction isn’t being defeated, it’s just being redirected from something worthless to something useful. Well, at least less useless.
Saw this posted in a ADHD com a few days back. Every comment was just like “oh no…”. I opened it and like 20 minutes later realized, oh no. I can and have spent many entire days just reading Wikipedia and following linked subjects. So much so I run out in areas. I can’t handle a lot of visual and audio stimulation, short form content is such a nightmare for me, can’t watch it. But give me pages of the most dense info and I’m hooked. I just need the option to download every paper referenced from every Wikipedia page I visit.
This is exactly what I needed
Does it fight algorithm addiction or does it just utilise existing algorithm addiction to give you something slightly more informative?
I would disagree on the “slightly more informative” part. I have used it and in my opinion, it’s “highly informative and educational”.
It’s like what vaping is to nicotine addiction.
Better than the alternative, buttt
Butt nicotine? What kind of weird stuff you into?
I think it’s more “Butt as an alternative to algorithms” which I fully agree with. Butts are better than algorithms
Depends on the butt, I’ve seen some nice algorithms.
Blowimg smoke up people’s asses, duh! /s
Apparently it doesn’t use a personalised algorithm. So I’d say the first one.
That’s actually really cool. I like that the dev has expressed that he doesn’t want to make the algorithm addictive and just keep it random 😅
Web 1.0 cures web 2.0 again.
It’s a neat way to stumble upon interesting information randomly Time is a flat circle
Everyday I read wikipedia and everyday, I learn something new. Fucking love this free resource
As someone who loved the random article feature and will sometimes peruse Wikipedia at random, this is extremely fascinating to me.
WikiTok > TikTok
I know it needs to maintain the Wiki name for branding purposes, but WikTok meshes better.
Alternatively WikiToko would be cute
WikiTiki ?
My God my general but shallow knowledge of many things will grow more powerful
