I could be an it. A good little toy.
Average blahaj user
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“A toy? A Lego set??”, she asked excitedly, and wagged her tail.
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This is why everything is a little shit to me. I’m just getting all of them in one combined s/h/it word.
You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
I would guess that yes, that’s (h) it
……….No.
Gotta reuse fiber to hit the daily recommended.
Turkish has no gender specific pronouns so this is every Turkish speaker I guess
Not even for people? I dont know why that sounds so strange but it does.
There is only one third person singular pronoun (“O”) used for people (regardless of gender) and objects alike.
Huh once again, hungarian is very similar to turkish. We have “ő” for that. No aninimity or gender distinction. Tho we do have this, that and a third one which i guess translates to yonder? But yeah in some constructions you can specify aninimity with them.
Also the word for “they” is “onlar” which is just “o” with the prular suffix “lar” attached, that’s like using “its” to mean “them.”
Neither does finnish
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I have an nb friend who’s Finnish. They prefer “It” as a pronoun. I had to explain that as a white native english speaker, we have shat the bed waaayyy too hard to use that one in our language.
I mean, in casual spoken finnish, “it” dominates. The third person singular for people “hän” is already gender neutral, but I guess we prefer not to make assumptions about anyone’s personhood :D. Or maybe it (se) just rolls off the tongue more conveniently.
Also funnily enough many people use “hän” when talking about pets and other animals whilst still using “se” when talking about people. “Hän” feels a bit stiff and formal when talking about people.
“Hän” feels like thee thou in English to me, way too old timey and formal.
It (se) is neutral and relaxed
“Thou” is actually the informal alternative to “you”. It came to be seen as insulting and its usage was dropped.
Yeah, I think it’s to make sure that the animal in question is being recognized as an individual, whereas for people that’s taken for granted.
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I think it has a lot to do with how it conjugates, “sen” and “sillä” is quicker than “hänen” and “hänellä”.
Yah, i get why they prefer using it and in Finnish it’s fine. In English it’s…Very much not. It’s a dehumaniser. Was an interesting conversation.
Tell your friend a follower of Christ who speaks native English says “it” is valid.
In Chinese, verbally the world for he, she, and it are all the same pronunciation. It is only differentiated in writing.
The written form was neutral until Western influence inspired the creation of a female version, replacing the first radical “person” with “woman”.
I think some Chinese forums use “TA” (as in the 2 English letters) to be gender neutral
Don’t forget the word 祂 for divine beings as the 4th
Going to randomly call people 祂 to fuck with them.
Ta?
“It puts the lotion on it’s skin…”
*its
Tits*
I never get mad at “it” because it gives me flashbacks to Shale from Dragon Age Origins and I absolutely love her. she’s amazing.
Oh holy fuck I’m rolling!
How have I not seen this image of Radcliffe before? He looks absolutely deranged!
The back story is that he was elbowed in the face on the way to the car, and probably had stage makeup on.
https://chatterbusy.removed/2013/07/daniel-radcliffe-appears-exhausted-with.html?m=1
Thanks
Why did that word get censored?
Which word?
I have to assume it’s in an automod filter, but I can’t imagine why. Is it a joke like how people say “Fr*nch”?
There’s a pair of asterisk symbols around the word “removed” in the address, and Lemmy or the readers are automatically italicizing what’s between them and then dropping the symbols, which breaks the link.
Using “%2A” gets around that. There might be other ways too.
No, there are no asterisks in the actual URL.
*removed* appears where a word has been removed.
Thanks for the context!
Hey kid… wanna buy some drugs?
I have friends who use it. It feels kind of weird and wrong for me as if I’m objectiving them but if that’s what they want it’s what they get.
Yeah I’d be quite uncomfortable with calling anyone “it”. I’ll gladly use they/them, I’d be down to learn some neopronouns, but calling someone “it” is something I’d rather avoid. Even if someone likes “it” pronouns, I’d still feel incredibly weird doing so in public. Calling people an “it” is often done here to mock androgynous people. It feels dehumanizing. If I were to do so in public, it would mean they people around me (who don’t know the other person’s preference) would probably assume I’m doing so to mock them.
On the other hand, when I was learning English this was the weirdest thing to me. What do you mean you have a gender neutral pronoun and it’s not acceptable to use it to refer to someone we don’t know the gender of?
I admit I use “they” when they’re not around and luckily it rarely happens that I need to use their pronouns when I’m out with them.
I have friends who use “it”. It feels kind of weird and wrong for me as if I’m objectifying it but if that’s what it wants it’s what it gets.
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Great job, what would I ever do without you?
To me “it” dehumanises someone doen to an object.
I’ve run into this a while ago but I’m not sure what to make of it. https://aria.dog/barks/on-being-a-thing/
Holy shit… You can have domains that end in .dog?
and .pizza, .gay
there are lots of fun ones
You can have domains that end in even more stuff if you switch to an alternative dns root like https://opennic.org/.
this is so interesting. thanks for sharing!
“It” is personally my favorite neutral pronoun, but it has so much cultural baggage attached to it that it doesn’t feel like a viable option. Why does a squirrel or a ficus or a robot get to be called “it” by default, but not a person? It isn’t fair.
it’s generally used to describe non-sentient things…
Also, using only it gets confusing when trying to determine what “it” refers to in a given sentence…
What’s not sentient about a squirrel?
Can you give an example of how “it” is confusing? Like “It met its friend for coffee,” sounds fine to me. “It put on a warm jacket since it was cold out,” uses multiple senses of the word, but it still reads fine to me.
“They” is mildly confusing in narratives because it can be hard to distinguish whether one or multiple characters are being described, but it’s not an insurmountable problem.
I think it might be most confusing when someone talks about someone who uses “it/its” pronouns: my initial assumption would be that they’re trying to dehumanise it unless I was already previously aware of it’s pronown preference.
That’s what I mean about the baggage, yeah. You can’t just make something not be a slur anymore. It’s uncomfortable for people trying to be respectful, and it’s easy for bigots to exploit.
that’s a good point, I think it depends on the person, but some people tend to just assume the squirrels gender in most instances rather than saying “it”.
In my experience (and I’m sure this varies by region) it’s about 50/50 whether someone will call most animals or anthropomorphized objects “he” or “it”. (Cats are a big exception in that they’re usually “she” even from people who know it’s a boy cat.) So for me “it” is just the most natural thing, with male-as-default being second and also problematic in its own way. Maybe someday I’ll like a neopronoun.
You should have answered with more empathy for its feelings. Jesus Christ told us to love our neighbours.
It’s your choice. Do what you want. Damn the haters to sheol.
The haters are the root of the problem, but it’s not like I’m not using it/its because I’m afraid of being scolded or made fun of. It’s unfortunately tied to dehumanization in the sense that not being human is a bad thing, and that makes it fun for bigots to say and uncomfortable for good people to say. I lament the situation, but I also accept the way it is.
Based based based based based
…Waow
What a tasteful website design
Korean, having to know the person’s age, social status, relationship and all just to call someone.
I use ‘it’ to describe ME :3
I have “it” in my Discord description, along with cpt.
No joke: in my native German dialect, women are grammatically neutral.
My then gf was completely shocked when visiting my birth region for the first time.
It still married me, though! :-)Ah yes, Dilbert scrabble scene.
