No need to be an asshole. There is a large cultural difference between the US and EU on this issue. Expert opinion is also divided, of low quality and influenced by local opinion.
Americans tend to think in moral absolutes about everything, and from their moral absolutism have an unwavering delusional confidence that they are ‘correct’ because of their feelings. It’s why we are so backwards in so many ways.
Birds good, cats bad. Full stop. If you don’t agree you are evil and clearly support bird genocide!
No other possibility is allowed in the discussion, like understanding that systems are complex and/or that not all cats are the same, or that the studies often quoted on these issues are flawed and problematic in many ways. And that the general solution to the problem… the control of the feral cat population, is one both ‘sides’ already agree on. Because there is no ‘drama’ in that. It’s much more dramatic to scream at every cat owner they are a evil person if they allow their cat outside at any time ever.
People are taking this really personally, the chart isn’t even throwing shade at cats. It’s saying look how small this is compared to something basically no one cares about in the US. Domestic and the resulting feral cats are a human created invasive species issue that way worse and more destructive than we give it credit for because we love cats.
I’m tangentially involved enough in local spay/neuter programs and you can see these consequences locally wherever you live.
Like I love cats, I have 4 indoor, no outdoor animals, but people are really trying to act like feral cat predation is no big deal. It is a huge deal, we just don’t care, and if we don’t care about a billion birds getting killed by cats, and a quarter billion by windows, why the hell would we care about the 7 that windmills killed in comparison.
Wind turbines kill as many birds in the US as the feral cats in my COUNTY do.
Yep, there we go. Projection is the final stage of denial. Congrats you did it.
People who vaccinate at the true menace! This is why I assume people are stupid. Few people are willing to critically examine their own behavior when called out on it.
I’m being called and asshole in this thread and you don’t see me denying that shit. I own it.
No need to be an asshole. There is a large cultural difference between the US and EU on this issue. Expert opinion is also divided, of low quality and influenced by local opinion.
Americans tend to think in moral absolutes about everything, and from their moral absolutism have an unwavering delusional confidence that they are ‘correct’ because of their feelings. It’s why we are so backwards in so many ways.
Birds good, cats bad. Full stop. If you don’t agree you are evil and clearly support bird genocide!
No other possibility is allowed in the discussion, like understanding that systems are complex and/or that not all cats are the same, or that the studies often quoted on these issues are flawed and problematic in many ways. And that the general solution to the problem… the control of the feral cat population, is one both ‘sides’ already agree on. Because there is no ‘drama’ in that. It’s much more dramatic to scream at every cat owner they are a evil person if they allow their cat outside at any time ever.
Given I see it the same as climate denial, I see no reason not to be an asshole to either type of a anti-science tomfoolery.
People are taking this really personally, the chart isn’t even throwing shade at cats. It’s saying look how small this is compared to something basically no one cares about in the US. Domestic and the resulting feral cats are a human created invasive species issue that way worse and more destructive than we give it credit for because we love cats.
I’m tangentially involved enough in local spay/neuter programs and you can see these consequences locally wherever you live.
Like I love cats, I have 4 indoor, no outdoor animals, but people are really trying to act like feral cat predation is no big deal. It is a huge deal, we just don’t care, and if we don’t care about a billion birds getting killed by cats, and a quarter billion by windows, why the hell would we care about the 7 that windmills killed in comparison.
Wind turbines kill as many birds in the US as the feral cats in my COUNTY do.
Ironically this comment is far far more like the attitude of climate change deniers than anything else that has been said in this thread.
Yep, there we go. Projection is the final stage of denial. Congrats you did it.
People who vaccinate at the true menace! This is why I assume people are stupid. Few people are willing to critically examine their own behavior when called out on it.
I’m being called and asshole in this thread and you don’t see me denying that shit. I own it.
If only you were self aware.
why would you have to examine your own behavior if you are right and everyone else is stupid and wrong?
Good thing I never said I am right. Hard to have an argument one people go for clever little zingers and strut about.
Your acting like a pigeons playing chess and fucking blaming me for shooing you away and being upset you shit all over the board.
Stupid bird. Hope a cat eats you.
Look you did it again! Good job staying consistent
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