I’m asking this out of curiosity; I don’t need to host anything that can’t already be done in the West


Lots of countries have very relaxed or non-existent enforcement of torrent filesharing. That’s not what I’m asking.

I’m asking about what place one could openly host every known commercial pop song and every Hollywood film without any worry about being shutdown or sued.

For a reference, according to a one-minute check of Wikipedia, the only countries which haven’t ratified the Berne Convention or the TRIPS Agreement in any way are Eritrea, Kosovo, Palau and Palestine. While joining these agreements doesn’t imply they’re enforced, it gives an idea of how widely governments do agree to intellectual property rights.

how much would it cost to launch an independent server into orbit?

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    A lot of people in this thread are equating consuming pirates material with distribution. This is not the same.

    Sony has nothing to gain from going after you Joe Schmoe who plays illegal mp3s or cracked games. The reason they don’t have a lawsuit is not that Colombia doesn’t care, it’s that the company would have nothing to gain from enforcing the law and spending the resource required to bring charges against you, this is true in the US too. You might get a letter and your ISP might throw a fit if you torrent, by no rightsholder is going to spend money in court because you didn’t pay to play.

    The moment you start distributing pirated material, the interest of the company changes, now they care about you harming their IP, reducing their profits, etc. Now you are at risk of a lawsuit.

    Being in fucking Argentina on whatever won’t make a difference, if Sony wants to drag your ass to court, they will, in whatever country you are.

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    Romania, because although we have been “forced” by the EU to have copyright laws, the authorities don’t give a fuck. I’ve been pirating without any issue for the last 25 years.

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    I think Russia, because of the sanctions. What I’ve heard is that they stopped caring about piracy, there’s piracy even on their social media, like VK, out in the open.

    If it was relaxed before, now it feels like it’s legalized in there.

    Edit: found a source for this

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      It’s not officially legalized somehow. It’s just not strictly enforced right now. They mostly don’t pay attention.

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        Although I may be slightly mistaken, I seem to have found that there are some exceptions to financial payments for patent violations in relation to unfriendly countries.

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      Good example, with the caveat that one would still be subject to the intellectual property rights of Russians, and I’d assume of their allies. (I know I used Hollywood in my example, that’s on me)

      Thanks for adding the source.

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        It’s not officially legalized somehow. It’s just not strictly enforced right now. They mostly don’t pay attention. But sometimes there’s more chance of paying attention if it’s Russian Intellectual Property. I think that if the copyright holder complains about specific content with specific links, they will delete it especially if he is from friendly countries.

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          Although I may be slightly mistaken, I seem to have found that there are now some exceptions to financial payments for patent violations in relation to unfriendly countries.

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        I could find Guardians (Защитники), the action movie with the bear with a gatling gun from 2017, in VK, so idk, it might be illegal, but it seems they don’t really care at all.

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      The only thjng I would rather to than piracy is funneling money directly into Russia.
      Indericetly is out of my reach but not if I can know and choose the recipient.

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    I would say Colombia, and probably most of Latin America. You can safely pirate multimedia content, or even physical counterfeit stuff.

    I used to spend a lot of time in a huge comercial neighborhood in Bogotá where you can buy jailbroken consoles, pirated movies/games/anything, counterfeit anything, and there were some cops presence, but they literally couldn’t care less, and they’ll buy stuff as well. Maybe once a year there were raids, but it was against tax-evasion.

    If this is the case in the capital, in the rest of the country the situation is even more careless.

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    Wherever this mythical place is that allows you do do anything with copyrighted material, I guarantee all it would take is paying off the right government official(s) to have it shutdown, no laws needed!

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      Since the micronation is unrecognized, within the territorial claim of the UK and easily within reach of their law enforcement, I wonder what the Principality of Sealand would have to do before the UK attempt to enforce their laws on them. Would the huge pressure of recording and film industries have enough power to compel them? Sealand have gotten into serious armed shenanigans before, which if one chooses not to interpret their governance as valid, would effectively be ransom.

      Their wiki page mentions HavenCo, a data haven which apparently was operational for a few years.

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    In brazil, where I live, one could buy pirated copies of xbox 360 and ps3 games easily at local street markets during the early 2010s at broad daylight, enforcement of anti piracy on a indivual citizen level that I know of is completely unheard of, there have been cases where corporations without software licenses have been fined

    it is completely normal to see computers with the activate windows water mark, I think I have seen more with the water mark than without it

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      To be honest, of all the countries in Latin America, Brazil is the only one I sometimes find news about the government working with some company to ban piracy sites. But as someone also in Latin America, I have no doubt that you can find pirated media in the street as easy as you can buy bread.

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      Other Brazilian here: Although they don’t care much about piracy at individual level, there were local servers seized and from time to time they take down some locally hosted sites, so although it’s safe for you to download and even p2p share stuff, you can get unlucky hosting - if it’s near elections and some politician needs to pretend he is having the police working.

      R.I.P. Manicômio Share

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      I don’t get that. It’s very easy to activate illegally. There was also a free upgrade/activation route if you pretended to be blind or something like that. Think that’s how I got a license.

      It’s pretty obvious that MS doesn’t care if you’re pirating windows. Their main market is business clients and the companies/governments they’re selling your data to.

      The only difficulty I ran into, is how to activate tiny10 without an internet connection.

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        most people just dont want to bother activating windows, legally or not. Because what does it do? cool it removes the water mark and lets you use the customization options in the theme menu, that’s not deal breaker for most.

        most of the time it is a simple case of for somereason the hardware id based windows license from the OEM not working, usually because someone decided to upgrade to the Pro edition themselves or the IT guy when asked to reinstall windows defaulted to using the Pro edition, thus the license for Home edition from hardware id doesn’t work

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    Some island won a world trade organization ruling against the USA. Only thing the court could give them was several hundred million dollars worth of intellectual property forgiveness bucks. I think the island was exploring options on what to do with it like spinning up a Netflix, but my guess is that the USA bribed them anyways to STFU

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    As of the last 20 years I’ve had great success in searching for piracy sources in Spanish. Argentina and Chile have great metal and EDM fandoms and for the longest time you could find entire albums just uploaded to S. American music blogs and wikis searchable on google.

    Now when I’m looking for stuff on Soulseek my most constant results are coming from South American IP addresses. But I’m routing my own VPN through there so maybe that’s not hard evidence of anything. I just know that for a lot of places they aren’t in the 15 Eyes intel sharing agreements and don’t seem particularly interested in prosecuting online copyright violations. At least as of now, these things can change.

    Also Iceland has a prominent data liberty movement and tends not to prosecute, but I don’t know if it’s the same for if somebody tried to host from there. I think about the old TPB guys back when they were scrambling to find places they could possibly operate out of and Iceland wasn’t really on the table for them, even back when it was starting to have hopes at a tech sector market boom. But I really don’t know too much about their situation. This is conjecture.

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        What does internet have anything to do with piracy? The question was if Copyright is enforced. Can speak from experience that it’s not, and was/is extremely difficult sometimes to find legit software.