• DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca
    12·
    6 days ago

    If we want the year of the Linux desktop to actually happen we need to have good GUI tools for almost everything. The second you say “command line” most people’s eyes glaze over and they say they’ll stick with Windows. Believe it or not guys, most people just want something that functions out of the box and they don’t want to mess with it.

  • ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml
    22·
    7 days ago

    I CAN interact with CLI, but i WANT to interact with good GUI. I don’t want to learn CLI commands when I don’t have to. Especially in the cases where I use it rarely

      • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
        4·
        7 days ago

        Yeah and that’s totally fair enough, but people who like using a command line and know the tools well rarely if ever have to type out long paths or commands. Tab completion and history suggestion (especially in a modern shell like fish or zsh) is a joy to use, and doesn’t just do file paths but command options and arguments. Man pages are very overwhelming at first, but if you’re practiced at scanning them, then it’s a lot more convenient to get the info right where you are than to navigate to another window. But the learning curve is steep and I get why someone wouldn’t want to bother.

  • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
    16·
    7 days ago

    In the same way some GUIs are trash, lord have mercy some CLIs are trash. Things like adding two verbose flags makes it extra verbose. Things like the parameter order mattering. Yeesh. It can be rough. It really varies tool by tool.

      • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
        2·
        6 days ago

        Yeah, I guess that’s true. I suppose given more time to think about it I wouldn’t really complain about that. It’s mostly things like script in out that are sort of annoying versus something like script --in foo --out bar.

        • kunaltyagi@programming.dev
          1·
          6 days ago

          I believe API (CLI or programmatic) should never have 2 arguments of the same type but different roles next to each other without visual cues.

          No fn("in.txt", "out.txt") and no script in out

  • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    6 days ago

    I’ve been at risk for carpal tunnel before, which is why I primarily use a keyboard.

    …on a GUI.

    Linux is great for a lot of things but so many open-source apps are terrible about giving you a visual interface for something, and then letting you use your keyboard to navigate it. Granted, Windows has steadily enshittified its lead on that front as well.

    • _donnadie_@feddit.cl
      4·
      7 days ago

      Call me a hater, but TUIs are just filler for the modern wm ricer. I see new ones pop up everyday lol

      • KeenFlame@feddit.nu
        2·
        5 days ago

        “just”? When my aesthetics are perfect I work 20% faster it feels like! And … Well i’m fabulous

      • hoppolito@mander.xyzEnglish
        3·
        7 days ago

        hater!

        (but for real, I love a well-done TUI. Scriptability of CLIs is nice but sometimes the in-between of a good interface while remaining embedded in the shell works so well. Something like vifm allows me to zoom around with fzf, select things by regex or rename with vidir, move and package with rsync or tar, all without ever leaving my terminal context)

        • _donnadie_@feddit.cl
          3·
          7 days ago

          hater!

          Can’t say I didn’t ask for it lol

          I get their usability too. It’s understandable if you have to access a server remotely and you want some sort of interface for some software without loading the server with a lot of packages like gtk, qt or stuff like that. I said it mostly to jokingly dunk on the newer arch/omarchy users with their fancy hyperland setups :P

      • tetris11@feddit.ukEnglish
        3·
        7 days ago

        Your torrent box should not need a WM to download torrents, and given the dynamic nature of a torrent download (speed/peers/pieces), a one-shot cli wont cut it either.

        A TUI is a perfect use-case for torrents, though I havent seen it done well in either transmission or aria2

  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
    11·
    7 days ago

    They are good for discoverability, but suck when you have to do the same thing 5 times.

    – signed, a guy currently having to use a GUI to update the firmware on 5 headsets, and put our standard settings on them

  • dr_robotBones@reddthat.com
    7·
    7 days ago

    The main advantage of CLI is that its easier to instruct people on what to do and easier to get answers from people about how to use a CLI, and you can copy paste. If you know how to use the GUI though it can be a powerful tool as well.

  • myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip
    6·
    7 days ago

    Depends on what I’m doing. Some things I prefer cli. Some things GUI is easier or quicker. There’s no wrong way to do anything.

  • OldChicoAle@lemmy.world
    6·
    7 days ago

    Don’t let random nerds on the internet make you feel any way about how you use Linux. Live your life and be happy. There’s too much bullshit in the world to pay attention to jerks with keyboards.