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  • “You have to earn my vote” is very different from “you’ll never get my vote no matter what you do.” You can kind of say whatever you want though, given that the Democrats never tried to earn votes.

    You should realize there is a spectrum between “working within the existing Democratic party structure” and “violent revolution.” The former is as unlikely as the latter. But now that I put it into words, maybe you’re right. Maybe all change in America is equally impossible - the establishment is too powerful and entrenched, and the American people just don’t have it in them to fight for anything. Maybe you just have to ride this doom spiral all the way to the bottom and rebuild from the rubble before anything gets any better.



  • Sure, but perceived volume of people on the internet isn’t necessarily indicative of real life, and I would hazard a guess that a lot of the people boycotting were in safe blue ridings.

    The thing is, I don’t think it’s so much that they see a progressive platform as a risk. I won’t say that isn’t part of it, but the main thing is they really, really don’t want to implement progressive policies. It’s anathema to them ideologically, at least for the true believers. More important, it would lose their major donors money, and therefore would lose them money as their donors went over to the Republicans.

    As tho why progressives should in general (upcoming elections are arguable of course, given the situation) withhold their votes from the Democrats, it’s because it’s the only leverage they have. As long as the Democrats can win without offering people anything, they won’t offer anything.








  • Wasn’t the turnout like 66%? I think that’s better than usual, no? Anyway, most of the people who didn’t vote are probably just apolitical, not left wingers.

    The point isn’t that there’s some secret reservoir of secret left-wing ideologues the Democrats can tap into, it’s that if you make peoples lives better in a concrete way, not only they tend to vote for you, they become politicized. FDR won three terms by doing that. The Democrats of today would prefer to watch the country slide into fascism than offer anyone anything.



  • Man, I don’t know if there are even going to be elections. If there are, they probably won’t be fair ones. Even if there are elections, and the Democrats win, will they do anything? If history is any guide, they won’t, and there will just be an even more fascist Republican government after them. You’re going to have to try breaking out of this death spiral in some other way than just “voting Democrat, scolding people for criticizing the Democrats”, because it has gone very poorly so far.

    Anyway, I think you’re really overestimating how many left wingers there are, period, let alone the amount that didn’t vote and could have made a difference. The Democrats, huge losers, predictably lost. They’ll probably keep doing it. Come up with a new plan.


  • I didn’t allow anything, I’m a Canadian and can’t vote in your elections. I still wouldn’t have been able to bring myself to vote for either of your genocide parties if I could.

    I don’t understand why you people have such a vested interest in pretending the democrats are completely blameless for everything. It was their election to lose, and they lost it, because they suck. They could have done something for people when they were in power, they could have offered to do something if they were elected. Instead they did nothing at all! They continue to do nothing aside from say “make sure to vote in the mid-terms!” No attempt to mobilize people, nothing but the most tepid criticisms of the Trump regime. Useless! Yet somehow fools like you just compulsively have to carry water for their pathetic controlled opposition party, despite the fact that they’re responsible for Trump being elected in the first place. What you need is a new party. Until you give up on the Democrats, you’ll never get anywhere.