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First a comment whitewashing Microslop stealing data and now, after some valid concern, you say that “AI is the greatest technological innovation since the Internet” and critizise people who doesn’t feed it? What a naive, corpo-pilled and bootlicking opinion to have.

We run our own Forgejo at home and couldn’t be happier

Yeah, I got it too

… decided that AI agents aren’t welcome contributors.
Let that sink in.

Oh, the horror, imagine how the tool that is unable of having feelings must have felt. As another said, these AI cringelords sure are cringe.

Wow, super based article! Thanks for it, I will also look at other articles from the author :D

I don’t deny its great contributions to the public and free culture, but I think it has become insufficient. The industry abuses it as much as it can, so I believe the only way to defend ourself is to migrate to a copyfarleft licensing model. With it, we can keep the same openness and freedom for the commons, but force the private sector to choose: either pay for our work, or fuck off.

“Haha funny you use a phone and buy things yet you are anticapitalist haha” ahh argument

The copyfarleft licenses are not incompatible with the spirit of FOSS, they work exactly the same for the people, the only difference is that companies can either fuck off or pay

The fact that the FOSS model is still considered the best thing ever is so sad to me. The “free” part is clearly not working. Or rather it is working as is now intended: free labour for the private sector to exploit.

The Telekommunist Manifesto for the longer version of this 🙃

Conclussion first: In any case, I would agree with what some other used said: What we care about in here, for the most part, is the software element of it. Even if I personally don’t consider using Cl*udflare to be self-hosting, all of us have similar info sharing interests, so this is just a terminology argument that does not really impact us that much

I wrote this first: Actually, this is a pretty interesting thing to think about. To me, the key factor to distinguish what is hosting and what is not is the use of a server. I would say that internet connection is not a requirement for hosting, otherwise it seems absurd to deny that the servers of big LAN parties like the Euskal Encounter are not hosting anything, they clearly are. Down to the smaller scale, having a LAN only Minecraft server in your home server, I would say it still is hosting, even if only you and your family use it. Now, going to a non dedicated computer that is exposing it on LAN, is it self-hosting? I would say no, just because it also seems absurd that any single player world opening in LAN to enable admin suddenly is self-hosting, I say it is not.

But I guess this shows that there is a point where we need more specific definitions, there is some ambiguity.

A summary of my definition attempt:

• Internet access: Not required (big LANs and personal Netflix/etc beefy servers seem self hosting to me)
• Local access: Required (for the “self” part)
• Dedicated hardware: I don’t know. Normally I’d go yes, but someone serving a bunch of things in their computer over the internet could argue it is some low availability sel hosting lol

I’ve seen other comments pointing their cats only doing it when kittens, but I am happy to report that my 3 and a half year old boy does still play it. I throw aluminium foil balls and he loves playing soccer with them and giving them back to me so I can throw them again

To me, it is not. If the internet or anything else goes down you lose all access. You are not hosting your services, so claiming to be SELF-hosting is not really accurate.

Furthermore, in the phylosophical aspect, you depend on a private company for all your infrastructure and are not doing anything against the centralization of the internet. To me, this is one of the core reasons I self-host. Maybe we need to make new terms for this, but allowing anything under the corporate cloud umbrella to be called SELF-hosting seems bad to me.

Mine (https://michi.blue/) wakes me up while making horrible lewd meaw noises trying to fuck his favourite plushie. I recently found out that if I throw said plushie to the wherever the fuck I can from my sleep deprived ass in the bed, he shuts up

I think you misinterpreted my comment? I mean the Free Software Foundation is copyleft absolutist, as in, they will defend that model of licensing no matter what. I agree, of course, an LLM can be trained legally with GPL code, as you say that’s how it is.

No, its copyfarleft. Both it and copyleft USE copyright. I recommend you the Telecommunist Manifest on this topic, and you can find the stupid take of the FSF on this in here. I don’t want copyleft anymore, I don’t think it is enough. The FSF’s justification is hipocritical and coward as they state that “…embedding that desire (ethical behavior) in software license requirements will backfire, by legitimizing fundamentally unjust power over others” while using the power of copyright themselves, and in a world where we already see bad actors profiting from collective work.

Edit: Adding to this, the first word of the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE is Copyright lmao

I believe the discourse that the FSF has managed to spread is greatly harming for the developers and communities. They are copyleft absolutists who believe no restrictions should be imposed in the use of our code, not even to megacorps that massively profit from it with oftentimes nothing in return.

I am in the process of making a revised version of the copyfarleft Cooperative Software License with a lawyer and once its done I will switch most of my development to it, with a clear warning for any company that uses my code to fuck off (or pay me I guess).

Yeah, I believe so, sorry. I wonder if codeberg permits something like this?

Forgejo has been working wonders for me, highly recommend ^^

Did you know that actually self-hosted runners like the ones you can use with Forgejo are free forever? Never going back to GitHub ✌️

Missconfigurations allowing bots and shit hacking you. Overblown paranoia mostly if you just take some precautions

WASM is that much slower? I get that needing a f*** Js wrapper to be able to use the DOM cannot be good, but is there really that much of a difference?