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NetBSD already runs a lot of the satellites out there.

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I have also heard of solaris, but never had a clue what it was.

I am pretty sure that is the enterprise OS owned by Oracle. It is closed source.

All I want is an os I can trust, that is logical, works, and stays out of my way.

NetBSD or openBSD is your best bet. You will have to install the desktop environment yourself though, unless you like their cwm. FreeBSD is the most popular BSD, but they are using AI to find security vulnerabilities.

Time to look around again I guess, I’ve never looked into BSD, Hurd, Solaris…

The GNU Hurd is probably not going to be for you unless you have Ethernet and an old thinkpad or dell laptop. In the mailing list, I know the main devs are usually against ai contributions, although I am unaware if they have a policy.

I would recommend using netBSD because the devs have a clear stance on no rust and no llm usage. There is also openBSD which has the best code quality of the three BSD’s, and I think had 2 vulnerabilities in a decade.

I disagree. For one, it’s unenforceable, just like outright banning it.

Agreed. I an aware a lot of people contributed to the Linux kernel, without disclosing they used ai.

Good code always was and should always be one where a human is fully responsible for it; if you decide to vibecode and happens to end up with perfect code, good; if you write it fully yourself but it’s crap it doesn’t absolve you that you didn’t use AI…

Yeah. I do not blame the ai for writing the code, but rather the person to accept and push that code even if they know it is crap.

I love pkgsrc. Thought flatpak, snaps, and appimages solved fragmentation, well pkgsrc solved OS fragmentation across ALL UNIX-LIKE SYSTEMS. I want netBSD to keep working on their rumpkernels as well, so we run their drivers ON ANY OS.

(I wanted to put emphasis to show how amazing NetBSD is)

Synaptic is still around in Debian.

Synaptic is still on Debian lxqt for me. Synaptic is also installed on trisquel 12, which is what I am using also.

Like GNU Guix!

I respectfully disagree. XFCE having the same experience is its main appeal.

I agree, and that is why I like xfce. I just would not really notice a difference if the project died or if it kept being developed. It is the same thing with lightdm. Until now, no one was maintaining lightdm. I did not even realize the project was rotting, and kept using it eventhough it was unmaintained since Ubuntu switched to GDM. In addition, I am still using Xorg eventhough it is dead, and it works fine.

I am aware that someone is implementing wayland in xfce, but that does not change the UX of xfce. I probably will not feel a difference in using wayland xfce compared to X11 xfce.

Projects don’t die because you and your cool friends decided that they are old news.

I think he is saying that xfce, budgie, and cinnamon served their purpose, and that there will be nothing innovative of them if we invested more money in them. I only agree with him on xfce, and not cinnamon and budgie. Xfce has been the same experience for a long time.

What if I do not use a desktop or a wm? The tty is comfy here.

I was referring to stable distros. But once you got all your games set up, aren’t you kinda good to go? But I get your point still, though.

I understand that you do not want to fiddle with a computer, I was once like that and that is what kept me from switching to any OS on my computer. I want to let you know as an experienced Linux user though that once you setup linux, you do not need to do any more fiddling. For the files and personal stuff, just back it up to an external hard drive. That is pretty much it. I could help you for free, but I do not really have somewhere to message anyone.

I understand. You can always increase your privacy with privacy-respecting tools, but qubes and tails are as private as you can get. I am just saying if you want to get more private then stop using the internet.

If you really care about privacy, maybe you should stop using the internet.

Idk. People were trying to kick RMS out of the FSF. https://rms-open-letter.github.io/

He later apologized. I think he is crazy, but his contributions to what we have now are very important.

It looks like to me that this distro is just a beginner friendly version of void.

Rule of thumb I adopted: If you never update arch, it will never break.