Right?

You have to wonder if leaders live in a parallel world, disconnected from ours.

Do we need to explain to them that it’s over? Is it denial?

It’s getting tiring watching these things happen, knowing what’s going to happen, have it happen then get ‘but we never anticipated this’. Yeah fuckin righto sunshine.

22 now including mine.

I dunno, I’m pretty fat so whichever way I lie there’s depth.

No paywall

https://archive.is/CEsFK

This is it.

Civil shutdown which forces those in government who might do what’s needed to do it.

It requires hardship though.

As it is for you.

Real men ay? Be careful of accusing others when you present no evidence you are anything more.

The ways to stop this go from easy to hard. Funny that.

The easiest is voting. It has the least risk, is the easiest to do. Done properly and regularly, it’s also the most effective, not just preventing shit like this happening but putting people you actually want in power. This is easier than the protest fix.

Bear in mind Americans are too lazy to do this in any numbers. They think even this is too difficult.

The next is peaceful protest, running from organised marches which are less effective but galvanise the public, to complete shutdown of trading, going to work, whatever can be done. This takes more effort than voting and in the case of real shutdown or mass protests, requires hardship. In this case this would be done to force those in power who might, to use the institutional rules that stand to remove this president and administration.

This is where the US is now and what it should do to fix this. This requires hardship, like losing jobs they don’t want, healthcare insurance which covers fuckall anyway and the threat of eviction.

This is still better than being shot in the face, which leads us to the next and last step of doing something about it; civil war. Despite some claiming the US is there, it isn’t quite yet. People are being murdered but there are not yet states fighting each other.

You might think you want this but you don’t, really.

When are US citizens going to take the easier paths to fix these things? Right now it’s peaceful shutdown. Fuckin oath they’ll lose jobs, healthcare and homes but perhaps if they thought about these things every time elections came up and how important voting is, the US wouldn’t be here.

Disengage. Don’t go to work, don’t buy any shit you don’t need, don’t pay your bills, don’t pay tax. Don’t bitch about the hardships of this either; you didn’t take the easy way out so now it’s the hard.

They either did or didn’t care enough not to vote. Not just this election either.

Tampering is a shitload harder to do when the turnout is something like 80 or 90 percent.

No excuses here.

There isn’t enough…

Internal violence…

Yes, I agree to every sentence in those two paragraphs. I don’t advocate for it and my comment didn’t.

voting and protesting is all we have

Yep, which is why I replied do something to the voting point.

You need to do something that grinds production, like stopping work and trading, that forces those in power to use the standing institutional rules to remove the two or three needed and you know who they are. The rest then becomes an incompetent Republican administration. Yes, it sounds insane and impossible; it probably is. It requires hardship which Americans are not willing to endure.

You voted them in. That ship has sailed. Your nation needs free and fair midterms at all costs.

I’m not advocating for violence, at all. I never have and I don’t want to see the US fall because the loss is incalculable. I do advocate people take whatever steps necessary to defend themselves. I support the organised protests but I don’t think that’ll be enough; pockets need to drain. The system needs jamming and the only way to get those that can act is to jam it.

our lives are going bad enough

You had control of that. Others don’t have and they don’t have control of your military turning on them.

No, I don’t get off on US misfortune, but I’m tired of fuckall being done by voters year by year then pissing and moaning when people are threatened and killed.

maladjusted sociopaths

This is how the rest of the world has seen the US for some time.

Edifying to finally see what they’ve been seeing isn’t it?

it’s baffled me for three decades

They’re either racist, hold some other form of prejudice or they’re hypocrites.

They’re bad people. I’m sorry if they’re close to you but they’re bad people.

I get it, I have a relative like this. Their flaw is racism and prejudice toward LGBT+, so they support and vote for awful politicians.

In that case then, do something at those elections. But do something.

Do something instead of throwing out excuses everywhere.

There’s other things that could be done, if the claims that most are good people are correct. Such as a quiet ‘down tools’. But that can’t be done either because jobs and healthcare right?

It’s fine for Americans to shoot back at others about the harsher end of action, such as revolution but they don’t even try and look for excuses on the easier ways out.

Wow they denied it and didn’t outright say ‘your mom’ or some shit you’d expect from the best the US has to offer.

I cannot see…

Full control of the Arctic circle and Trump is an imperialist. Mainly the second to be honest because as things stand strategic control is given to the US anyway.

Again, you’re missing the fact that Trump is in control of the US. The only people who have influence over Trump are Putin and Netanyahu, because they have either kompromat on the bloke or he owes money.

the US has been a plutocracy

No more. It’s a dictatorship run by Trump. What applied in the past no longer applies.

you want a short answer

The US will move on Greenland before Easter and you better prep for it.

As to how Europe reacts, we’ll see, but the US will take Greenland.

No, I am not one of those…

Shakes head Righto. I think I got what you meant by that. ‘I am not naive’ probably would have been good enough given that…

I am not a US citizen

So how can you not recognise, after seeing what you have, that this is no bluff? Your claim that the US elite have Trump by the balls is incorrect by inspection. It’s the other way round.

You need to understand rationale has been replaced with ruthlessness and fascism. China might replace the US, yeah, but not yet and not quickly. You’re not correct about its economic influence either; you’ve completely disregarded the rest of the economic world outside the US and Europe.

Sure, Europe is diversifying, as it should be and should have ages ago but none of that explains or underwrites the US bluffing, nor does it prevent it from happening.

Trump has reasons he believes are good enough to take Greenland and he will attempt. This is no bluff. There are strategic reasons he wants this territory in control of the US. Furthermore, his tech bros are pushing for it as well.

Realist ay? You better shake yourself into reality sunshine, because unless there’s some swift, serious movement within the US to stop or displace Trump, Greenland will be part of the US before the years out. Absolutely it would be disastrous but the ignorance of reality is thinking it won’t happen. They said they would and they will.

I have to ask; were you one of those who thought the institutions would uphold and Trump would be prosecuted during Biden’s term?

I’m getting ‘pragmatist who is confidently incorrect’ vibes.

You’re wrong on two points here: this is no distraction and the United States isn’t bluffing.

They’ve pretty much got their numbers right.

Non voting is voting, in this regard.

If there’s this many allies, where are they when voting time comes? Twice, he was elected.

Nice points.

fascism operates on…

That’s conservatism.

What lawful purpose? As I understand it they were an unnecessary creation by George Bush Jnr, but I’m open to being better advised.

In fact I recall discussion at the time about them being used to suppress the population in the future. Those discussing it were ridiculed, as were those who said the US would elect Trump.

So you didn’t vote then?