And yet, about half of voting Americans will actively ignore those impulses and choose a party that openly campaigns on tax reductions while it drums up fears surrounding issues they largely agree with (when presented in a non-partisan context) so does it really matter what they say?
And also that somehow Trump wasn’t so much fucking worse on the genocide halfway across the world, despite his close cooperation with and endorsement from Netanyahu.
There are absolutely people who will not vote no matter what. But folks are being actively disenfranchised and making it easy to vote by a proven secure method has become a political issue because a few who have power wield it without responsibility. Hell, if Election Day was a national holiday (as in, EVERYTHING is closed or by law folks are able to take time off to vote with proof of doing so) you’d probably see a substantial bump alone.
Well to be fair they also know democrats only say they will fix the issue and then immediately do the same things the republicans do because they just cannot do without that sweet corporate cheddar.
I figure their logic is that at least the republicans are honest about it.
Dems downvoting you are ignoring why Trump won. At their peril.
[Edit: I see in a later comment that you clarified and people here do get it.]
Dems laugh at his meandering speech but the MAGA’s appreciate he is not scripted and one actually can understand what he is on about. It looks demented on paper but it is actually how a lot of people speak. You don’t need to complete your sentence if you have got the message across . MAGA think we are stupid for getting confused with our comprehension.
In the GOP primaries he mocked his competitors on stage saying that he has given many donations to politicians and the favours will be returned, even the ones on stage with him. MAGA loved the openness of the corruption.
What I don’t get is why they thought he would “drain the swamp”?
I missed the part where the Democrats were cutting social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. And repealing the ACA. And attacking LGBTQ people. And deploying the military against American civilians. And sending people to foreign gulags en mass without trial. And attacking voting rights.
That was what Trump campaigned on wasn’t it? So contrary to democrats who usually don’t deliver in their promises Trump can at least says that he tries damn hard to deliver on his promises.
I know this will be conflated to me being supportive of what he does. So let me clarify that I’m not endorsing it, I’m just stating the fact that Trump goes so far as to break the law in order to deliver his promises, while democrats work really hard to maintain the status quo even while having legal and political power to make real change. This is part of his appeal, a detail which should not be lost on democrats.
So contrary to democrats who usually don’t deliver in their promises Trump can at least says that he tries damn hard to deliver on his promises.
I know this will be conflated to me being supportive of what he does. So let me clarify that I’m not endorsing it, I’m just stating the fact that Trump goes so far as to break the law in order to deliver his promises, while democrats work really hard to maintain the status quo even while having legal and political power to make real change. This is part of his appeal, a detail which should not be lost on democrats.
We’re pretty much in agreement here. I simply disagree that Democrats do the same things as Republicans when in office. While I may vehemently disagree with most of their strategy, the Democratic party isnt nearly as big of a threat as the GOP.
Only Alaska has federal ranked choice voting and a Republican tried to repeal it., so I give you that one.
But check out the https://patrioticmillionaires.org/ site. I don’t think either party are interested in that (except maybe for Bernie, AOC and Warren - which I admit would make Dems slightly better).
And yet, about half of voting Americans will actively ignore those impulses and choose a party that openly campaigns on tax reductions while it drums up fears surrounding issues they largely agree with (when presented in a non-partisan context) so does it really matter what they say?
45% of voting age Americans didn’t even fucking bother to vote
Well, a lot of them decided the genocide half way across the world was more important than the genocide they would help to trigger back home.
And also that somehow Trump wasn’t so much fucking worse on the genocide halfway across the world, despite his close cooperation with and endorsement from Netanyahu.
How any didn’t vote, and how many were removed from voter rolls or didn’t have the right ID or were gerrymandered or
And they won’t next time either. Stop worrying about them and focus on those who do vote.
This is real defeatist.
There are absolutely people who will not vote no matter what. But folks are being actively disenfranchised and making it easy to vote by a proven secure method has become a political issue because a few who have power wield it without responsibility. Hell, if Election Day was a national holiday (as in, EVERYTHING is closed or by law folks are able to take time off to vote with proof of doing so) you’d probably see a substantial bump alone.
Right but not for the reasons you think. I’m not counting on there being a next time at this rate.
Well to be fair they also know democrats only say they will fix the issue and then immediately do the same things the republicans do because they just cannot do without that sweet corporate cheddar.
I figure their logic is that at least the republicans are honest about it.
If you can’t tell the difference between Biden and Trump, then you need to quit sniffing glue.
I know it, do low information voters know it? They are the ones that decide who wins.
Dems downvoting you are ignoring why Trump won. At their peril.[Edit: I see in a later comment that you clarified and people here do get it.]
Dems laugh at his meandering speech but the MAGA’s appreciate he is not scripted and one actually can understand what he is on about. It looks demented on paper but it is actually how a lot of people speak. You don’t need to complete your sentence if you have got the message across . MAGA think we are stupid for getting confused with our comprehension.
In the GOP primaries he mocked his competitors on stage saying that he has given many donations to politicians and the favours will be returned, even the ones on stage with him. MAGA loved the openness of the corruption.
What I don’t get is why they thought he would “drain the swamp”?
I missed the part where the Democrats were cutting social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. And repealing the ACA. And attacking LGBTQ people. And deploying the military against American civilians. And sending people to foreign gulags en mass without trial. And attacking voting rights.
Yep, they sure are the same.
That was what Trump campaigned on wasn’t it? So contrary to democrats who usually don’t deliver in their promises Trump can at least says that he tries damn hard to deliver on his promises.
I know this will be conflated to me being supportive of what he does. So let me clarify that I’m not endorsing it, I’m just stating the fact that Trump goes so far as to break the law in order to deliver his promises, while democrats work really hard to maintain the status quo even while having legal and political power to make real change. This is part of his appeal, a detail which should not be lost on democrats.
We’re pretty much in agreement here. I simply disagree that Democrats do the same things as Republicans when in office. While I may vehemently disagree with most of their strategy, the Democratic party isnt nearly as big of a threat as the GOP.
Same thing in terms of being bought by lobbyists (although Elon’s influence is unprecedented).
Same thing in terms of refusing to reform one of the worst voting systems on the planet.
Same in terms of insider trading (Trump is more blatant and doesn’t mind if he tanks the economy in the process).
Same in terms of ignoring https://patrioticmillionaires.org/
They are literally not as bad as the GOP on all of those issues, and you even pointed that out on half of them.
I stand by my point.
Only Alaska has federal ranked choice voting and a Republican tried to repeal it., so I give you that one.
But check out the https://patrioticmillionaires.org/ site. I don’t think either party are interested in that (except maybe for Bernie, AOC and Warren - which I admit would make Dems slightly better).
I can’t help but wonder if some thought it couldn’t get worse for them personally so they wanted to see the whole system crash and burn.
That’s the narrative pushed by Russia anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics