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  • @RBWells@lemmy.world
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    Yeah, she sure does look like someone at least 45 with filler and botox. I think it’s a style thing, she got the filler and botox already for some reason. Perhaps evil does age people.

      • It’s strange, because to certain groups of people, “botox and cheek filler face” is the standard of beauty. To me, I can only see it as someone intentionally putting their face into an uncanny valley.

        • @aesthelete@lemmy.world
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          This is just one man’s opinion but fake tits, bad nose jobs, or filler face often completely destroy a woman’s attractiveness. Filler face is to women’s faces what boob jobs used to be to their bodies. They look like trash and I understand that most of them are doing it for the delight of the dog shit monied douche set. So, have fun with that I guess.

          I also understand that these women don’t owe me anything and it’s their bodies to alter and their lives to live, but that’s my opinion.

          I wouldn’t be surprised if there becomes a “fetish” for natural women’s faces just like there’s a “fetish” for natural tits.

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            I think when the surgery is good, nobody notices it. Two women at my work had to get eyelid lifts for medical reasons, and both came out looking so much better and not at all “done”. Really nobody would ever think they had plastic surgery and even I forget then think wow that was great work.

            That standard filler face though? I know the look it’s emulating and we cannot all look like that! I knew an old old lady who had been a Vogue fashion model in the 40s and 50s and she had that bone structure that ages so well, the high big cheekbones, eyebrows that had started out so high she had room for them to fall, I look at those overdone samey samey faces and it’s not going to work. I cannot take my wide round face and morph it into that with filler!

            Sunscreen. Retin-A. Sleep and exercise. Those are the way to keep looking good as you are getting old. I can’t understand botox because if exercise keeps everything else healthy how is it bad for your face?

            • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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              People getting hooked on cosmetic surgery looks really similar to how dysmorphic anorexics wind up.

              Sometimes a surgeon can do an amazing job, and many will consistently do so. Much like how people can look much better by loosing weight. You probably couldn’t tell if someone had their abdominal adipose tissue injected into their butt or breasts if it was done well and you didn’t know. But then they’re likely to decide it isn’t enough.

              Dealing with dysmorphia is hard. Changing to body neutral attitudes is hard. Seeing your body realistically is hard. I struggle with weight based dysmorphia myself and I know I possess the capacity to starve myself emaciated and still think I look fat because I have organs.

              I find it ironic in a way, that Ms loomer is a transphobe who probably thinks we need therapy to deal with dysphoria, while being clearly at the mercy of her dysmorphia.

              There’s a question I’ve seen posed in some circles before: “Do you need a boob job, or do you need to read some feminist theory?” It’s not meant to be accusative, the answer can be either and thats ok, but it’s important to actually consider that your perspective of your body and of other bodies may be skewed before you surgically go changing things based on your insecurities. Even if you pick the boob job, you’re more likely to go in with realistic goals and less likely to keep getting another procedure if you’ve seriously thought about it before.

              • @RBWells@lemmy.world
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                Yeah I was an anorexic teenager and while I didn’t just keep getting smaller, was maintaining at 99lbs, 5’9" for years. I weigh about 150 now and even though I literally feel so good physically, and understand that’s kinda unusual at my age, and have managed to at least keep my bone mass (it’s low, obviously, but not declining, made it through menopause with all of it, and that’s also unusual) and logically understand that:

                1. This is considered smack dab perfect weight for my height and age.

                2. Losing weight now would be kind of dumb and counterproductive.

                I cannot shake the fear and dislike and anxiety over being this big. I don’t want to be 99lb, no way no how absolutely not. But at every single point between that and this I feel too fat. There is no weight that will look how I want, though, and again, I suspect this here is ideal because nothing hurts and I’m strong, though not fast. I know it’s my mind that is the problem, and not my body. But knowing it doesn’t make me not feel too big.

            • @aesthelete@lemmy.world
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              I think when the surgery is good, nobody notices it.

              I think some of them (weirdly) strive to look like they’ve had plastic surgery. It’s like a marking of their status or something.

              There’s some mixture of an uncanny valley and/or Habsburg jaw effect to the women that surround Trump in particular.

              When I heard Kristi Noem had to be rushed to the hospital due to an allergic reaction, my first thought was that it was from some type of cosmetic procedure she was having.

              • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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                I think it’s more likely to be unregulated dysmorphia. Maybe they start with a bit to get the fox news look, but cut by cut wind up like that trying to fix every “flaw” with a procedure.

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                  I really disagree with this. Her nose job, which was initially good, no longer fits her face. Her nose is super straight and it doesn’t really flow or move in the same way the lines of her face do. She also has some more asymmetry in her face (that probably can’t be changed with plastic surgery because it relates to eye position and bone length) in part due to aging and her nose isn’t at the right angle to fit the different planes of her face.

                  This is probably the effect of aging, not more and more plastic surgery. She probably had 1 nosejob possibly with cheek implants and has occasionally gotten lip fillers and possibly cheek fillers.

                  So at this point, Laura Loomer would look better with a revision rhinoplasty that made her nose look a bit bigger, more flow-ing, and less straight. The bridge could be at a slightly different angle to fit her face. Her nose would look worse but the overall flow and feeling of her face would be much better. If she has cheekplants, and I’m not sure if she does, she should take those out if she can.

                  So doing that would be expensive, time-consuming, and hard to do. Revision surgeries are riskier and cost more. They have longer recovery time and much more can go wrong. Additionally, it’s hard to made a nose that is “too straight” flow in a more natural way because you sort of would have to intentionally make the nose look a bit worse. She could do it and end up looking worse, even if she tries to be smart about. It would probably also cost a lot, probably many tens of thousands of dollars.

                  She is a political commentator, there’s no indication she’s super rich. She probably did the initial surgeries because she thought they would help her in her career and make her more attractive and doing revisions is expensive, has risks, and would require downtime.

                  I don’t agree with her politics, but this is not dysmorphia. My guess is it could be the opposite: she may realize a revision surgery could be beneficial but is concerned about additional costs and risks and so hasn’t done anything, instead just accepting things as they are.

                  • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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                    That’s a fair assessment.

                    I’ve only seen the before and afters and I’m a lot more experienced in watching the psychic collapse of people getting more and more cosmetic surgeries than I am with specific procedures, and I’ll acknowledge her behavior and the circles she runs in have biased me towards thinking suicide by thousand cuts rather than a few ill advised procedures having unfortunate effects and it not being worth it to try to undo.

                    If your theory is correct then I’m somewhat sympathetic to that scenario. Especially as its increasingly common for political commentators and figures to have work done.