• verity_kindle
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      199 months ago

      What is the katko test… I’m afraid to look it up? 14 watch lists is plenty

      • @prayer@sh.itjust.works
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        309 months ago

        A famous legal case defining what is and isn’t allowed for defense of property, specifically about lethal booby traps to stop trespassing. It basically says that you can’t use lethal force to defend property using booby traps as they are indiscriminate and therefore cannot determine if certain criteria (i.e. reasonable fear for your life) are met.

        • @mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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          319 months ago

          … because Katko used a mousetrap and a shotgun shell to blow a dude’s leg off. Over some antique jars.

          It’s one of those cases where the jury immediately knows a line has been crossed and just needs to hash out how far back.

        • verity_kindle
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          69 months ago

          Thanks for the context, I thought the “Katko test” might be a funni/memey reference. TIL! Happy Cake Day!

    • @mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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      189 months ago

      On reflection, the real question is whether you’re home at the time, since that makes it the castle doctrine instead of “defense of property.” At which point you’re free to go full Home Alone a la Last Crusade. The penitent doorkicker kneels! bzzZZZzzzt

      • verity_kindle
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        89 months ago

        Yesh. When do I get to shlap my shon for blashphemy? Sho exshited aboit my shcenes.

      • @Rafael@sh.itjust.works
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        79 months ago

        At which point you’re free to go full Home Alone a la Last Crusade.

        Stop stop I can only get so erect

    • KillingTimeItself
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      49 months ago

      i think the technicality here is that it would be akin to negligent manslaughter at best. Since self defense wouldn’t really apply.