On Reddit too. You’ll see alot more of it everywhere as the US hands over global dominance to China and their soft power increases, until it presumably becomes as ubiquitous as american propaganda and you don’t notice it anymore
So, lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, and a few other Lemmy instances have a reputation as being “tankie” (aka, aligned with overseas communist or former-communist powers). Their users will effectively attack any western viewpoint (e.g Gaza genocide) but remain completely silent on any topic related to Russia or China (e.g Uigihur genocide). They argue in bad faith and exist as a propaganda tool only.
Is the creator of lemmy one of them? I saw the username for lemmy’s creator in wiki and on the same day, bizarrely enough, he replied to my comment while defending north Korea of all places.
Yeah. Dessalines is a lemmy dev and an admin of lemmy.ml (which is effectively the dev’s official instance). And he has some very questionable views on Russia/China and censorship in general.
Edit: I ask because I just scroll through lemmy without actually knowing which instance is showing which content. I’ve heard the same sentiments voiced about lemmy.ml but never really looked into it.
You know what you’re getting? What does this even mean?
There is a lot to criticise about the US, there is no point in coming with some hysterical BS, if anything your approach ignores and plays down the very real issues with American society.
I am honestly surprised that you were able to get me to defend the US.
P.S. We both know that if you went to the US, you would go to the tourist parts of NYC or LA and it would be a pretty run of the mill tourist trip.
Your are not wrong that the US is more volatile, police often do act out even in routine situations and you will notice a lot of crazy people and degenerate behaviour, but it’s not that big of an issue if you stick to routine tourists activities and areas (or if you are with a local).
While I unfortunately haven’t been to China, I will speculate that you can get into serious trouble if you go outside of the tourist path and/or you’re not with a local.
Don’t get me wrong, I am no fan of the US.
While I’ve generally always defended the US while recognising their weaknesses, I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that the US is not a positive influence globally and their culture is perhaps more flawed than I initially believed.
That being said, it is ridiculous to position China as being “a better option”. China is a revanchist, genocidal and authoritarian country. I have no interest in being dominated by such a country.
A big thing that’s been weighing on my mind recently has been the impending threat of climate change. Who is actually going to be able to step up and potentially prevent our extinction as a species? It’s definitely not America. Europe has too many incoming threats to be able to focus on the climate crisis. In terms of world powers, it sure seems like the PRC is the only chance humanity will have, as long as we can convince them to care.
I don’t like that, but I don’t see another option. I guess if our options are extinction as a species or the Chinese model, I’ll choose the Chinese model.
I’ve noticed an uptik of pro Chinese propaganda content here on lemmy in recent days. I am afraid the fediverse had been discovered.
On Reddit too. You’ll see alot more of it everywhere as the US hands over global dominance to China and their soft power increases, until it presumably becomes as ubiquitous as american propaganda and you don’t notice it anymore
Your instance must not be federated with lemmy.ml or lemmygrad, and it shows.
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They’re tankies and you know it
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So, lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, and a few other Lemmy instances have a reputation as being “tankie” (aka, aligned with overseas communist or former-communist powers). Their users will effectively attack any western viewpoint (e.g Gaza genocide) but remain completely silent on any topic related to Russia or China (e.g Uigihur genocide). They argue in bad faith and exist as a propaganda tool only.
Is the creator of lemmy one of them? I saw the username for lemmy’s creator in wiki and on the same day, bizarrely enough, he replied to my comment while defending north Korea of all places.
Yeah he is actually
Yeah. Dessalines is a lemmy dev and an admin of lemmy.ml (which is effectively the dev’s official instance). And he has some very questionable views on Russia/China and censorship in general.
Any chance you could link to some examples?
Edit: I ask because I just scroll through lemmy without actually knowing which instance is showing which content. I’ve heard the same sentiments voiced about lemmy.ml but never really looked into it.
You’ll like it over there then
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Must not read much local news mate.
Edit: Like at all
Is that /s?
Not if you’re paying attention.
While America fucks itself and its own citizens, China has been investing abroad for years.
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Fortunately, there are other countries as well.
Their social cohesion is due to threatening or straight up genociding any incohesive social groups.
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Which genocide is that?
A single party state where you get sent to the gulag for public opposition to the government sounds like a great society!
And plastic consumerism is just as applicable to China as the US. Perhaps even more.
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You know what you’re getting? What does this even mean?
There is a lot to criticise about the US, there is no point in coming with some hysterical BS, if anything your approach ignores and plays down the very real issues with American society.
I am honestly surprised that you were able to get me to defend the US.
P.S. We both know that if you went to the US, you would go to the tourist parts of NYC or LA and it would be a pretty run of the mill tourist trip.
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Your are not wrong that the US is more volatile, police often do act out even in routine situations and you will notice a lot of crazy people and degenerate behaviour, but it’s not that big of an issue if you stick to routine tourists activities and areas (or if you are with a local).
While I unfortunately haven’t been to China, I will speculate that you can get into serious trouble if you go outside of the tourist path and/or you’re not with a local.
Don’t get me wrong, I am no fan of the US.
While I’ve generally always defended the US while recognising their weaknesses, I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that the US is not a positive influence globally and their culture is perhaps more flawed than I initially believed.
That being said, it is ridiculous to position China as being “a better option”. China is a revanchist, genocidal and authoritarian country. I have no interest in being dominated by such a country.
This is what happens when you let losers on the internet dictate your worldviews.
Uh… how about neither then? False dilemma argument.
A big thing that’s been weighing on my mind recently has been the impending threat of climate change. Who is actually going to be able to step up and potentially prevent our extinction as a species? It’s definitely not America. Europe has too many incoming threats to be able to focus on the climate crisis. In terms of world powers, it sure seems like the PRC is the only chance humanity will have, as long as we can convince them to care.
I don’t like that, but I don’t see another option. I guess if our options are extinction as a species or the Chinese model, I’ll choose the Chinese model.