• @funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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    622 hours ago

    what about the numerous sexual harassment lawsuits, decades long friendship with Epstein including numerous trips on the lollita express and his longstanding board membership of Berkshire Hathaway which has presided over numerous ethics violations?

    • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      922 hours ago

      The flight logs do not show that Bill Gates has ever visited the island on any plane. The most that has been confirmed is that Bill Gates flew from New Jersey to Florida on a private plane owned by Epstein once and that he had dinner with Epstain exactly once, which in interviews he expressed as a major mistake. I remind you that before 2006 Epstein was a public figure as a professional financier and broker and even until 2019 him and Ghislaine participated in major fundraisers.

      Furthermore, your claim is one that gets constantly circulated by right wing nutjobs after a particularly viral tweet in 2023.

      • Michael
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        Bill Gates knowingly associated with a person involved with and convicted of some pretty crazy stuff. Bill knows it’s crazy, that’s why he’s been spending out the ass on PR for many years. His wife divorced him, and Bill’s relationship with Epstein was a seemingly big factor.

        https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/melinda-gates-opens-divorce-betrayal-211513816.html

        Melinda: “I did not like that he had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein, no. I made that clear to him…He was abhorrent. He was evil personified. My heart breaks for these women.”

        The philanthropist stressed that Bill’s relationship with the sex offender affected her deeply, writing: “That October, things had reached a fever pitch when The New York Times published a deeply disturbing article that raised serious questions about Bill’s conduct.”

        “Questions that suggested he had betrayed not only our marriage but also my values,” Melinda lamented in her book.

        If even his former wife throws Bill under the bus, why are you defending him?

        • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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          11 hour ago

          If you had rumours about you of being involved with a worldwide sex trafficking ring I think it would put a strain on your relationships too, pal.

          • Michael
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            So in the absence of evidence, let’s defend Bill. Got it.

            We could stay neutral, but still be concerned that this person still has power, wealth, and influence…but everybody loves billionaire philanthropists, am I right?

            • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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              11 hour ago

              Saying Bill Gates is as bad as Elon Musk is not Neutral. You should not be Neutral about Musk, Zuckerberg, or Bezos, they are the enemy.

              • Michael
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                I’m personally saying that no person should be able to accumulate wealth, power, and influence to such a degree and also use his wealth to pay people to sing his praises and like him.

                I’m not making value judgements on these two individuals. I’m simply stating that there is no merit to billionaires existing.

                • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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                  Okay but that stance in no way dictates that an individual in our actual reality, where there are no such idealist barriers, has already accumulated wealth and used it to do good things.

                  This is the value judgements discussion. Feel free to exit.

                  • Michael
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                    How much money has Bill put towards developing Africa and directly improving their living standards?

                    Has he addressed modern slavery and modern child slavery (which we rely on for our cocoa)?

                    Has he addressed colonialism and imperialism?

                    These countries are extracted for everything they are worth, they are exploited for their labor, resources, and goods, and they remain poor while wealth concentrates to the few in first-world countries.

                    His “philanthropy” surely helps him to be aware of the situations that these countries face. But let’s just shift an important topic and reduce it to value judgements. Got it.

    • @Auli@lemmy.ca
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      116 hours ago

      What friendship. He was never at the island according to records. Unless you have some proof.

      • Michael
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        Ah, right. It was just Bill getting financial advice - purely business.

        It’s certainly normal to get financial advice from sex offenders and those convicted of prostitution, with multiple accusers in court against them.

      • Psychadelligoat
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        113 hours ago

        Oh, so he just flew on the plane named after the pedophile book and was known to also have children on it for the sexual pleasure of whoever was there?

        The island wasn’t the only place kids were getting fucked, dude