• @Godric@lemmy.world
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    402 days ago

    Organize now and win primaries later. Shove a progressive down the DNC’s throat like Trump shoved himself down the RNC’s throat in 2016.

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      2016, 2020, and 2024 made it obvious the Democratic Party will never let a progressive win the election. They will do whatever they need to do to mess with the election to prevent that from happening. 2016 they manipulated the media heavily, used delegates to manipulate numbers early to build support for her, manipulated graphs to make him seem like he was doing badly, constantly misconstrued Bernie’s ideas in media interviews, gave her debate questions, and showed empty podiums Trump would sit at instead of Bernie speeches. 2020 they brought in Bloomberg who only entered to make sure Bernie didn’t win, also did some media manipulation, kept trying to coopt some of his ideas in a more watered down form, and then called everyone but Warren, who shared the most voters with Bernie, to drop out at the same time after it looked like he could win. In 2024 they basically didn’t even have a primary, with no debates, interviews with candidates, or anything, and even skipped it in some states. Once that process was over, he just handed the candidacy over to his VP.

      They will always tip the scales and will never let it be fair if there is a danger of an outsider winning. The Democratic Party is a bunch of donors and industry staffers in a trench coat. I’ve basically given up on having any hope in it, this last election and it’s support for “the most lethal army in the world” while we’re enabling a genocide was the last straw.

      • @Godric@lemmy.world
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        215 hours ago

        Average progressive primary voter: see above

        Average centrist primary voter: “Boy do I love phonebanking for Average Centrist #39!”

        Who the fuck ever told you politics was fair? Who said change is easy? These things didn’t happen randomly, they happened because people had their fingers on the scale because they could put their fingers on the scale. Organize, mobilize, and slam your fist so hard on the scale so hard that change becomes inevitable, or don’t and moan about the result.

      • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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        23 hours ago

        HR Clinton and Bernie Sanders were actually neck and neck until she pulled out ahead. It was really close. Then in 2020 far less people voted in the primaries, likely due to defeatism like yours.

        Also, Every single dem is a Public Option proponent and wants to overturn Citizens United. It just means fuck all without 60 senate seats.

        • @WanderingVentra@lemm.ee
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          222 hours ago

          I think every election cycle there’s probably people who get jaded, hence all the non-voters.

          And it’s only 60 senate seats because they’ve decided it needs it. The majority sets the rules like that, they could make it happen if they wanted to and change them if they wanted to. The only time they’ve ever done it is to approve some Federal judges. Otherwise, they usually let the Republicans overturn norms, which just makes us go further right.

          • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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            122 hours ago

            There haven’t been more dems than Repubs in over ten years, there haven’t even been more than 50 dems total without independent caucus, so that sounds like a bad idea to change the rules at that time, tbh.

    • @Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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      51 day ago

      Trump won because he threatened to run as an independent and spoil the Republicans chances. The DNC would rather let the Republicans win then let a progressive independent win. If we can’t get a real progressive on the ballot, we can’t wait for election day to do something about it

      • @ExtantHuman@lemm.ee
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        322 hours ago

        He won because all the carbon copy neocons split their primary votes enough that he had the biggest plurality for months. He had a solid lead by the time the field narrowed enough