I wonder if Putin actually suggested it to trump
Doesn’t he want to join the EU? Aren’t EU nations doing the same? It seems everyone has a price when it comes to fuel and energy.
Translation: War is a hegemonic device for forced oil dependency
Let’s be real here, it sounds like a lot of fuel. It isn’t.
Koch oil refineries in Russia never stopped churning
Z, buddy, you knew what you were allying with. The US is a warmongering nation. I hate it, but that’s what we are. That our country didn’t jail Donald after January 6 was all the information you needed to know the risks associated with being a US proxy.
It’s Trump’s style
To win, you need someone to lose
if his allies lose, he’s winning
The surprising part is that he must see Americans as his allies, because he seems quite content with causing us to lose over and over.
you’re almost there…
He’s not wrong. What is the point of sending Ukraine weapons if you’re going to pay Russia as well?
Money for blood soaked billionaires.
USA SELL weapons to the EU so they can send them to Ukraine. It makes total sense.
It’s so fucking sad, pathetic, and treasonous.
Suddenly USA is aiding and abetting Russian imperial wars? And favor them over allies?
This will end in disaster.
Imagine, the courage and bravery of the Ukrainian people to defend their nation against unprovoked aggression with such consummate sense of duty and with such heart, only to be stabbed in the back by the very country who waged endless proxy wars against “communism” and the Red Threat for the better part of a century.
This is a disgrace to humanity, a stain on our civilization and an affront to all those who fought and died to ensure the continued existence of civil democratic society.
Abysmal.
Suddenly? The US has been siding with Russia and snubbing Ukraine and its allies for a few years now.
Even from a rightwing standpoint pre 2010, this confirms Russia managed to turn the government and make them their bitch. Which means despite losing in Ukraine like the pathetic genocidal maniacs they are, Putistan won the cold war.
Ugh, fuck the US
*fuck Trump.
The rot goes waaaay deeper than Trump, but yes may he follow in the footsteps of his idol Adolf and paint the walls of the Trump-Epstein Friendship Bunker
I don’t think there’s still a “U” in Magastan.
its also giving aid to the enemy
This is deplorable, self-inflicted issue and then let sick putin off the hook. This is bad fruit produced from bad people and policies. Healthy policies and ways to be excellent to each other, produces good people, but so many keep insisting on the bad ways/trees which produces the bad fruit.
Trump will go down as one of the worst leaders in world history, beside Nero.
Nero was libeled by the christians after the fact. You feed a few of them to lions and they never shut up about it. But that was the custom then.
Rome had a lot of monsters as emporers, Nero didn’t even rank.
IE caricalla, and that was before shit got really bad.
I cannot think of any head of state who has a worse track record in terms of statecraft, vision, inspiration, or even pure accomplishment. Even if you flatten your moral judgment and only look to how skillfully even the evilest men in history achieved their aims, he’s plainly a negative outlier. His only signal achievement is in uniting the sentiment of the entire planet against the US.
Pol Pot is a good contender, but even his actions didn’t have this level of global impact.
He’s been a really good promotor of energy independence with renewable power and sales of electric cars have never been higher.
But the rest, the dude has the mierdas touch. Everything he touches turned to shit.
Oooh I like that a lot. “trump applied his mierdas touch again today, announcing he will annex the Falklands”
He is not a negative outlier. He is another step in the downward trend both Democrats and Republicans have continued for years.
Biden was much worse than Trump in destroying international law in Gaza. If Trump did that all hell would have broken loose.
Do you clap with your fingers spread?
Nothing but empty insults when you have to face reality. Sad. Cope a bit harder.
You don’t understand the US needs the Diesel to checks notes Power data centers which forces the residents evacuate due to the smoke
Trucking and farming are far larger, and more important uses of diesel in the US
The military uses more diesel than anyone else. Sure half of the carriers and all the subs are nuclear, but none of our plethora of frigates and corvettes and cruisers are, not to mention the tanks, jeeps, and trucks.
2005 or 2006 numbers from wiki
The Department of Defense uses 4,600,000,000 US gallons (1.7×1010 L) of fuel annually
So 4’600 million per year for military. Total diesel usage of the USA is roughly 20 million barrels per day, so 840 million gallons per day, so 300’000 million gallons per year. Roughly 2 % for military. I doubt that is the largest consumer. Transportation should easily be more with millions of trucks.
I know, I’m not literally saying that LLM’s are the reason the US has to import more Diesel but it’s so emblematic and aggravating example of the wasteful way in which western society (and the US in particular) uses fossil fuels I put that instead of how trains are far more efficient means of transportation, especially for logistics.
‘more important’ to who? it’s very important to dipshit and his party guests… and they surely don’t gaf about truckers or farmers. they’re in it for the stock plays–maybe a little embezzlement and fraud on the side, military can always use it, the data centers might use some but iirc they’re more into natural gas, and using this measly piddly little amount (less than a day’s worth for the entire nation. not enough to have any measurable impact on pump prices) to trick magats and others into thinking they’re actually doing something to ‘help’ them. i doubt any of this russian fuel even makes it stateside.
More important for the economy would be my reading of that. It’s really important that your goods get from A to B and that the harvest is brought in.
Transportation alone uses nearly 3 billion gallons of diesel annually. To suggest nobody cares about how the majority of goods and food products in America make it to our homes is peak Lemmy.
To win an election, that’s all he cares about
Trump has wedded himself to the oligarchs who are making money from data centers while an overwhelming majority of Americans hate those motherfuckers. Did you see what he did a couple days ago? What in the actual fuck. He’s been disconnected from reality for his entire life, but dude is drifting off into space right now
So call me confused… But isn’t Russia short of diesel itself? And isn’t this breaking a bunch of agreements between western countries?
They are having diesel shortages and super high prices since the refineries keep getting blown up while simultaneously a lot of the middle east ones are out of commission. So not necessarily a ton for America to vacuum up and feel substantial relief but it does give fat stacks of cash to boost refinery repair efforts by pumping up demand and prices for Russian diesel
Good thing the US has their own refineries. This is whitewashing diesel to fund both sides of the war.
The American refineries are maxed out in capacity right now, while they’re making money hand over fist it’s extraordinarily expensive and time consuming to build new ones so not many have wanted to fork over the billions of dollars to do so in case elevated fuel prices turn out to be a flash in the pan by the time construction is over.
By the time one is built the crisis will be over or priority’s shift and then you are stuck with a redundant facility that costs millions to maintain while not doing anything. I can see why it should take decades to build them to keep up with demand.
Yes. They have banned exports. While sanctions lift is dressed up as diesel for us, its actually all energy sanctions relief to all.
Russia is a very big country with very limited transport infrastructure. There are diesel shortages in Russia, mostly in areas where Ukrainian missiles can reach, but for example the Northern and Siberian districts would be mostly unaffected.
I asked Claude to explain the diesel thing, and I was also surprised to hear that Russia had banned diesel exports and just lifted the ban for this, so this was actually a favor to Trump.
Now why would he do that? Well you know how Trump is about other countries’ oil. And he was already telling Ukraine not to hit the factories before. Trump doesn’t seem to care or understand how much diesel exactly is coming from Russia. He just knows Zelenskyy’s blowing up “his” oil now.
I wonder if they’re really that stupid. But why wouldn’t they be? If I’m wrong, it’s not because I underestimated them. I just must’ve missed something.
The problem with leaving your critical thinking to AI is that you don’t build any of those skills yourself
Tell me why I’m wrong then. And would my comment have gotten upvotes if I hadn’t mentioned Claude?
Edit: Also, this is just rude. Judge the comment on its own terms. I told you where I got the idea from.
Edit 2: Who’s laughing now? https://www.politico.com/news/2026/10/10/trump-zelenskyy-russia-ukraine-01115841
“I used ai so I do t have to think.”
“Please think.”
“Tell me why I should think”
This is the problem.
From my perspective, the hive is reflexively downvoting me for saying I used AI, without bothering to evaluate anything I said. It didn’t come up with this on its own. It just pulled sources for me and raised points such as the diesel expert ban, which I was not aware of. I offered my own thoughts too.
AI will at least engage with my point. I’ve yet to hear anyone here, despite all these downvotes, interested in talking about the Russian diesel ban.
When you guys read from wherever you get your stuff, a lot of it is AI generated and you don’t even know it. It’s unavoidable, and it isn’t my fault.
AI did not help me write this.
Next time ask Grok
Edit: Apparently I should have put /s.
