• Monkey With A Shell
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    2 months ago

    Who would have thought he would do the same thing he did in his first term again?

  • @cygnus@lemmy.ca
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    1882 months ago

    “A small price to pay to own the libs!” the drones say as they make boiled leather soup.

    • CMLVI
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      572 months ago

      Don’t forget deport immigrants (arguably increasing food costs). BIL sent me an article about 400+ illegals getting deported Tuesday night or something. Weird, I thought there were hundreds of thousands of them. They could only get that many? “The majority were criminals” Aight, cool. Keep those resources going and start processing the years and years of rape kits left waiting for testing. Start getting those citizens too, champ. Or are we only after the brown criminals? Hmm…

      • @rayyy@lemmy.world
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        52 months ago

        Well, dear leader said gas is gunna be cheap so you can drive to the grocery store and look longingly at the food you can no longer afford to buy and see the empty shelves of cheap eggs. Good thing, since you will need the extra money you will save by not buying food to pay more taxes so the rich won’t have to.

        • CMLVI
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          22 months ago

          Ironically, eggs are the most expensive they’ve ever been, because of an ongoing bird flu epidemic. Good thing we are deregulating the industry, so we can have a bird flu epidemic, expensive eggs, and a potential foodborne pathogen issue.

  • @thesohoriots@lemmy.world
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    1322 months ago

    Nobody in the US knows how marginal rates and progressive tax brackets work, you can sell the fools on anything and just blame the IRS because it’s the most convenient incarnation of what people hate.

      • @Draces@lemmy.world
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        92 months ago

        But the cuts could start benefiting you at the $300k bracket relative to before. What’s the actual change?

        • @faltryka@lemmy.world
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          222 months ago

          Because the way marginal taxation works if you make 300k you paid all those extra brackets tax hikes before you got to 300k and started seeing the lower marginal rate.

          So to see your impact you add every changed number from the left up to your income, that’s your impact.

          Yes it takes a positive turn at 300k, but you’re already deep in the whole and don’t turn to actually positive until around the final bracket.

          • JackbyDev
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            22 months ago

            It says average cut, so I think it’s for the average person of each bracket. So it’s talking about folks making $600k maybe? Just guessing.

          • @Draces@lemmy.world
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            12 months ago

            I know how marginal taxes work and you didn’t address my question. If the tax on above $300k is less than it was before you are paying less. What is this about something changing at $1 million?

            • @Nednarb44@lemmy.world
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              122 months ago

              I think what they’re saying (I didn’t look at the data yet) is that while the rate at 300k is lower, that lower rate doesn’t make up for the higher rates that individual will have paid until that point. So for the individual in question, the net positive doesn’t happen until 1m.

              • @Draces@lemmy.world
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                62 months ago

                Ah yeah. Might just be a bad graph since it says “by income group” and then breaks down by the actual bracket. Not sure exactly which it means still but I think they’re right

          • RamenJunkie
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            12 months ago

            Why should it be better over $300k though? Thats a tiny tiny percentage of the population who very likely already has more money than they would need for the rest of their lives if they wuit working today, reguardless of age.

            People should not be allowed to hoard wealth like that.

            This graph should be savings early on, which still benefit those people, because, as you mentioned, it adds them up, but at some point, it gets worse.

            Incentivise “spread the wealth”. Lift everyone up, because by 300k, you are good, let others get more.

            • @faltryka@lemmy.world
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              42 months ago

              Yeah I definitely wasn’t advocating for that, was just explaining how that worked with marginal tax rates.

    • RamenJunkie
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      122 months ago

      It makes me angry when I see people talk about how getting a raise would be bad for them because it would put them in a new tax bracket.

      Like dude, no, it won’t be worse. Thats not how that works.

      • @smeenz@lemmy.world
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        22 months ago

        It’s by design… the same group of people think that tarriffs are paid by foreign companies. Keeping voters ignorant is a key part of their strategy. Remember that trump once said “I love the poorly educated”

  • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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    1032 months ago

    They raise taxes on the middle class to make people hate taxes so they vote for smaller government.

    They’ve been doing it since the 80s. God how I wish our politics weren’t in a death spiral. It’s so boring.

      • RamenJunkie
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        52 months ago

        Billionaires are always the enemy.

        You do not get to even 1 billion without causing massive indirect harm to a shitload of people. No one, no one, every, has put in enough to “earn” 1 billion. The vast majority of people will work their entire lives and be lucky to have a gross total income of a few million. Thats Gross, not worth or wealth, thats, “I took money in and spent it to live.”

        I would argue anyone worth much over 10 million is in the same harm causing boat as billionaires.

      • @smeenz@lemmy.world
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        12 months ago

        The problem with taxing the super rich is that their weath isn’t in the form of taxable income, it’s mostly in the form of stock, and doesn’t become cash until it is sold. Selling stock, especially if the CEO is the selling lots of stock, causes the value of the stock to decrease, so they don’t like to sell it at all. What billionaires do to pay for their day to day expenses is to take out loans, using their stock as collateral on that loan. No bank is going to deny a loan backed by Tesla stock, or space-x stock… that’s guaranteed interest for them with basically no risk. The value of the stock them increases over time, more than the interest payments do, and then they pay it back, coming out financially better than they were when they took out the loan. The only way that billionaires could really be taxed is if the government was to tax them on the value of all stock that is held at the start of the tax year, and not just when it is sold. Some countries do this, I don’t think (?) the USA does.

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    2 months ago

    Graph is from October 2024 this isn’t some new version that was just released either

  • @anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    552 months ago

    This is just peak brainworm. What does someone making nearly a million dollars a year even do with an extra 7k?? Make their scroodge McDuck vault a little deeper? Doesn’t matter how deep it is, you still can’t dive into it like a pool. Idiots.

    • magnetichuman
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      342 months ago

      No, you totally can dive into a pile of gold and swim in it and they should definitely all try it. It works better the higher the diving board is.

    • To be honest, if you’re able to make a million a year (even hundreds of thousands a year), you can afford an accountant who will tell you not to take compensation as employment income.

      If you’re a business owner you’ll be taking a significant share as dividends, or if you’re an executive you’ll be taking stock options or other share based compensation. If done correctly, you can not only take advantage of lower tax rates but also defer taxes to future years.

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          They are alluding to capital gains. If you don’t need money now, you take 50 million dollars in stock, hold it for at least a year, and now you’re paying 15% or less instead of whatever the top tax bracket would be (like 37% or something) if you were to take it as employment income.

          • @Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            One of the greatest unfairnesses in the tax systems in many countries (certainly at least the US and UK) is that income from “investment” (which generally is money made from having money or owning thing, though there are often ways for freelancers and small business owners to use it to have their income from work look like the income of business ownership) is taxed less than income from work.

            It’s “interesting” how the countries with the loudest “strives vs skivers” and “meritocracy” bullshit from politicians, generally penalised people more for working than for sitting on their hands whilst their fortune naturally grows through rent-seeking.

    • @frezik@midwest.social
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      52 months ago

      Plus, at the other end of the spectrum, I’m quite sure anyone making $28.6k a year would be very happy to pocket an extra $790.

    • @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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      32 months ago

      Pretend that’s the end of the bracket and it doesn’t increase from there. Now the guy making 100,000,000 gets an extra $700,000

    • Ignotum
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      22 months ago

      Just take more xhits on xhitter, that’s seems to be how Edolf makes his fortune

  • @secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world
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    but at least now baby jesus will stop shedding tears because transgenders and intersex people can now be labeled with their correct biblical gender

    that will make the poor religious folks happy at least, right? they don’t need grocerries, baby jesus is happy the transgenders are suffering! delicious!

    • @smeenz@lemmy.world
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      12 months ago

      It’s the MAGA way… they base their self worth on how much the people they hate are suffering.

  • @TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
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    392 months ago

    That’s on top of the increase starting now as well.

    The tax plan of 2017 cut taxes for everyone, but starting last year they went up for anyone not making 300k or more.

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    292 months ago

    I don’t think I can afford to prop up the wealthy any more than I already am doing now. Guess I’ll need to get a fourth job to help pay off Musk and company tax relief.

  • @MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world
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    222 months ago

    Is there a source on this? Not that I don’t believe it, I’m sure this is exactly what’s going to happen, but if I bring it up in conversation saying “I saw it in a meme” will deflate the argument.