• @yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works
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      The US contains some of the best cancer research centers in the world, most of which are non profits. On top of this you genuinely can buy the best care if you can afford it, as top talent across the world go to the US to get rich if they’ve lost all their morals.

      It’s just everyone except the super rich and people with rare cancers that might someday affect rich people that can’t get care without bankruptcy and have to use enshittified hospitals.

      • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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        223 days ago

        alot of that talent in stem research comes from people immigrating here too, now that is being threatened i suspect they will go to EU, australia for thier work. i cant say the same for people going through school to TRYING to get into he field(which is a different set of problems)

    • If you have decent insurance, it’s ok. The problem is it either ties you to your job and/or is very expensive. People fall through the cracks.

  • @Katana314@lemmy.world
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    If US Health Insurance companies are so great at the service they provide, why don’t they take their business internationally? All these other countries must be so exasperated with their useless, inadequate federal healthcare programs.

    Oh, wait, they’re not.

    • tiredofsametab
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      It’s kinda funny living in Japan. We are all legally required to carry health insurance. It’s available (income-based) from the govt, though many companies provide it as well paying half or more. Most of us who grew up in the US are talking about how cheap it is and most of the Europeans and Canadians are talking about how expensive it is (often about the point-of-service cost (30% of bill for most, though much cheaper than prices in the US) though some also the insurance). We also have out-of-pocket max (monthly cap, I think), and spending over 100k in a year opens up tax deductions (think of that like $1000 in USD/EUR for how it feels to spend that; the exchange rates are obviously different).

      • @TwanHE@lemmy.world
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        Jeez I’m lucky the deductible is yearly here in NL, last few years Ive blown through it in January alone.

  • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    And as a Canadian, I hear Americans talking about how we wait so long for care.

    We do, but not for anything that is life threatening.

    I don’t mind waiting for an x-ray for something routine if some kid needs an x-ray to figure out if his skull is cracked or something.

    • @commander@lemmings.world
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      Rest assured, that’s just rhetoric peddled by and for useful idiots to “justify” why things shouldn’t change.

    • OptionalOP
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      I’m an American and a regular appointment is still likely a couple months out because of insurance.

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      My response to wait times is to train more doctors, nurses and lab techs. Denying poorer workers from having access to healthcare so that wealthier people don’t have to wait is cruel and a banal evil.

    • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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      oh yea, emergencies, cancer diagnosis usually doesnt wait that long in EU too, just regular appts. even in the states if your own "state subsidized healthcare, you can also be waiting months or even almost 6 months for a appt, secondly you will also encounter rude employees that just hangs up on you too. i was in an insurance based medical facility/hospitals, its barely occupied most of the time, so i think the insurance just like justfying the increasecost of the insurance by building unnecessary facilities, before 26, my previous insurance was doing just that and still doing to this day.

      also some insurance in general are allergic to older people too, they price them out, they have no need to “drop people from thier insurance” , when they can just price them out, this also helps them skew results like denials or getting terminated from thier insurance.

      • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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        All good points.

        I would, 100% of the time, rather live under a social triage of conditions, where those who have the most need, get the most and most immediate care. If I’m not going to die from my medical issues, I can wait.

        From your description and what I understand of it, American medical triage is less about who needs the most care, and more about who has the most money.

        I’m a first aid trained person. Changing the way people get triaged for what their issue is… That’s a good way to get people killed.

  • Maple Engineer
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    Canada is number 32. Maybe the US should become Canada’s fourth territory. We should talk to Premier Trump about it.

  • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    That’s basically the worst of all the developed countries with some developing countries doing better than us.

  • @pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    This is the truth. My aunt comes to my third world country to treat her teeth. And for her is cheaper to come, pay the plane, pay the treatment, stay some days and return, thant to pay the same treatment in the US

  • @ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
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    You should also Luigi anyone you know who voted for Trump. They are directly responsible for everything currently happening and do not deserve to feel safe.

    Edit: Sorry I have no sympathy/empathy for those that voted for Trump. They knew exactly what they were voting for and now we all have to pay for it. They don’t care if people die as long as they get what they want. Fuck em.

      • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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        Running for office, starting a competitive company, or just general political activism against the people who caused this problem, literally anything.

        Here is the perspective: Luigi was the son of the multimillionaire owner of Mangione Family Enterprises. He had an Ivy League Education and a cushy tech job with 6 figure salary. He 3D printed a gun at home, took $20,000 cash to live off while on the run, and murdered a stranger.

        Imagine how much good you could have done in his position, instead of throwing it all away.

        • @cheers_queers@lemm.ee
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          there’s no evidence provided yet that it was even Luigi. I’m tired of seeing everyone talking about this like we know he did it. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

          • @null@slrpnk.net
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            So? The criticism is with people celebrating whoever did do it. Whether it’s actually him or not isn’t really relevant to that.

            • GladiusB
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              That’s what symbols usually do. He represents the hope that equality can still be had. Since it’s so fuckin bleak with your government and due process. We will die waiting for them to change and then they don’t have to listen.

                • GladiusB
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                  By equalizing their power to understand they are still vulnerable.