A few weeks ago, I explicitly disabled it everywhere I could find within account.google.com and I’ve not used anything gemini since. Now I get this email and find it enabled on my devices.
By default Gemini has permissions to access everything on screen, view your contacts/messages, and can be used from the lockscreen…
I’m not all that surprised; but I’m still annoyed. Especially with the opt-out of data collection/access after it’s been given access to everything.
Come to GrapheneOS where your phone just leaves you the fuck alone and does what you ask of it.
It’s crazy the peace of mind you get from it.
what’s the privacy vs pure security info? is GrapheneOS actually keeping our data more private or just making it really hard to get hacked?
I’ve been on it for like a week now and love it
It makes the former possible but you still meed to keep up on privacy hygiene. Check out privacyguides.org to help you with that. Privacy is a spectrum, so the trick is finding where you want to be and assesing what you have to sacrifice to do so.
Security is the priority, but that does usually give you a good amount of privacy too.
One example I remember where there was a clash was developing their sandboxed Google Play Services rather than supporting MicroG. I think their reasoning was that sandboxing the Google code makes it much more secure, and even though MicroG is more private from Google it’s still a mystery blob with full access to your device and therefore less secure.
I mean that’s complicated. The former is far more in your hands.
Or any degoogled ROM for that matter
This is the way. I resisted doing a custom ROM based on past experience, but GrapheneOS is absolutely worth it. The day I saw Gemini in the text messaging app is the day I bit the bullet. Wish I did it sooner
Can’t use banking nor government apps there (non us)
This has actually been one of the biggest reasons I’ve been hesitant too. Looking at that list, my bank isn’t on it (a regional credit union), nor is my credit card provider which also has an app for management.
Ontop of that, there’s a provincial ID app that’s recently rolled out. It’s become somewhat important for reaching certain government services and can only really be transfered from one working device to another unless you go through the whole process to have it issued again.
I have no idea if that will work on graphine and I don’t have a second device to transfer it to while I wipe this and put a new ROM on it.
I do want to try GraphineOS, but I think I’m going to wait for my next device and start from scratch with that.
That does leave me with a question though. If you do install GraphineOS or another os/rom and it’s not working out for you; how hard is it to get back to factory, or at least back to a ‘standard’ android install?
Send me them and I will install and let you know.
I’ve never looked into going back 😅
I stand corrected
Can I install on a Samsung? I know computers and their bootloaders/OSs pretty well but phones are mostly a mystery
No its only available on Pixels for security reasons.
What does the pixel have that an S24 doesn’t?
Honestly don’t know. Something to do with the Tensor chip and monthly and quarterly software updates.
Unlockable bootloaders and guaranteed security updates for several years (at least, that’s the claim).
I have a Verizon pixel. Enlighten me.
Well for starters there’s no Gemini unless you choose to install it on your device.
Other than that, just general privacy and security improvements. Sandboxed Google Play Services is another big benefit.
You can check out the website if you want to know more.
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No. Enlighten me on how to install it on my Verizon Pixel. I will wait.
Step 1. Reconsider your chosen birthplace. Choose another location with consumer protection.
Step 2. Restart your life.
Step 3. If the restart life option is not available on your plan, contact support. Location transfer options are available but terms and conditions of port outs have changed recently.
I’m pretty sure Verizon locks the bootloader on their phones. I had a S10e and I wasn’t able to unlock it.
It may be the same for you.
Yeah. I’m fucked sadly. I might call and yell at their phone reps. But I doubt it would ever get me anywhere.
Yeah. Uh. Hindsight is 20/20 and all that but don’t buy phones from the carrier.
on my devices
See that’s where we’re fucking up. If a company can install things on ”your” devices, it’s really their devices.
Google “SafetyCore” says hello.
We don’t really own anything
These are pocket computer computers that turn into paperweights the moment our feudal lord Google decides to
I strongly suspect the Gemini team is trying to artificially inflate the usage statistics for it by opting people in without their consent and requiring you to replace assistant with Gemini in order to access popular tools like image gen.
It’s likely that in a few months they’ll get exposed, probably not even get a slap on the wrist for it, and go back to their shady business practices.
Sounds about right.
It may inflate the numbers for now, but overall I think it’s just going to have a negative impact. I may have decided to play with it at somepoint, I’m just somewhere between disinterested and distrusting of the tech. Now that it’s been shoved down my throat though, I adamantly REFUSE to touch Gemini. Installing it on my devices and giving it all my data without consent is absurd overreach and should be a felony.
I have the assistant disabled entirely because I find its gesture annoying. Gemini force enabled it back a couple days ago.
I tried Gemini before. The problem was reliability.
E. g. I say “add an event to my calendar: tomorrow 2 p.m., doctor visit”, and it parses the voice perfectly. The regular assistant would then just create the entry.
But Gemini sometimes goes like: “Adding an entry to your calendar is easy! Do you have an iPhone? Then these are the steps: …”
This is why LLMs are not appropriate for applications where regular syntax is needed, like calling an API. I don’t understand why they made the LLM the first step, handing it off to the old hard coded Google assistant second, rather than the other way around. Having everything go through the LLM first is wasteful, slow and unpredictable. I am very confused about Google’s decision here
All of the voice assistants have been complete dogshit since day 1 (sometimes even getting worse) and yet somehow we still have them.
The funny part is when you say something and it corrects you
Or that weird thing ChatGPT was doing were it screamed “no” in your own voice before replying like nothing happened.
Edit: it was “no” not “help”
Or that weird thing ChatGPT was doing were it screamed “help” in your own voice before replying like nothing happened.
Wait what the fuck
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When’s Google gonna put Gemini on the Google Home/Nest devices? I’d switch to 'em if they end up getting Gemini on them, the amount of times I ask my Echo Dot a simple question that it can’t answer but Gemini can is ridiculous.
