• @StonerCowboy@lemm.ee
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    212 hours ago

    Yea these guys don’t look like law enforcement. They gonna get shot if its my turn cause these look like bad guys just kidnapping fools.

  • @GaMEChld@lemmy.world
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    61 hour ago

    If people that looked like this showed up at my door, they’d be looking down the barrel of a shotgun. These morons are going to get shot.

  • @PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
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    “You see your honor, they were wearing ski masks, and I’ve been taught by Hollywood that a group of people wearing ski masks in the middle of the day with a black van means they are up to no good. So I took it to my own hands to shoot these motherfuckers down.”

  • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Look how wide that dude’s stance is. Fucking loser. What a bunch of big tough guys with masks. Show your faces, and be proud of your actions bitches.

    Edit: It’s giving:

  • @Bravo@eviltoast.org
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    395 hours ago

    Has anyone actually confirmed that those guys are actually ICE? Because they look like I could pretend to be ICE and get away with it.

  • @SpaceShort@feddit.uk
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    255 hours ago

    Well. If there’s nothing identifying them as an arm of the state, it’s legal to shoot them in self defense should they try to kidnap you. You can also say that the law doesn’t matter anymore as the US government is flagrantly violating it but that also means that the law no longer has legitimacy as the government is breaking it’s end of the social contract. Therefore, normal morality in the absence of law applies which says that self defense is legitimate.

  • FauxPseudo
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    It’s 2025. America. You see these men on the street.

    If you assume they are going to rob a bank dial 911.

    If you assume they are going to lynch someone dial 911.

    If you assume they are going to kidnap someone dial 911.

    If you assume they are law enforcement then get your eyes checked. They aren’t wearing any identifying uniform, no insignia, no badges.

    If you assume they are impersonating law enforcement then dial 911 and get your eyes checked.

    • @MisanthropiCynic@lemmy.today
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      109 hours ago

      Definitely don’t call 911. That just gives them more backup. They look like terrorists in the streets. It’s actually illegal here to wear a mask over your face while demonstrating or armed so they are under stand your ground territory

        • FauxPseudo
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          13 hours ago

          You can only use proportional force to defend yourself under stand your ground laws. If you stab someone that is only using their body parts then you go to jail. Will a jury convict? It will take a year or two to find out.

          • @ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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            41 hour ago

            Multiple people is significantly more force than even a knife.

            Proportional force means the force must be proportional to the threat, not to the force the other person is using. If someone threatens death with their hands, you can use deadly force to defend against a deadly threat.

            One would be reasonable in concluding that masked people trying to force you or someone else into a van is an imminent threat of death, great bodily harm or sexual assault.

            You can’t use deadly force to defend against harassment, or theft because that’s disproportionate.

          • That’s not true in all states. In Florida, if you feel genuinely threatened, you can respond with deadly force, no matter what the other guy is threatening you with.

      • FauxPseudo
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        If you stand your ground you still go to jail. Even if you are released you still got more inconvenienced than them.

        As a white person I’m at minimal risk from them. But in order to stand your ground for another person they must have a legal right to be where they are. And if they are, in fact, not legally here, then bad things happen to you.