cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/37661765
Notepad now supports AI features like Summarize, Write, and Rewrite on Copilot+ PCs, with no subscription required. If you have a subscription, you can seamlessly switch between local and cloud models based on your needs. If you’re not signed in or don’t have a subscription, you can use the local model to accomplish your tasks. For now, these features support English only, making premium AI more accessible and flexible for everyone.
Source: Windows Insiders blog.
One of the best features of notepad was that it starts quickly. That feature is now gone. :(
Tbf, some larger file sizes fucked notepad in the ass HARD. Notepad++ does everything right by me.
use notepad++ as drop-in replacement.
+1 NPP is the goat
It always struck me as a code editor lite rather than a text editor. If I just want to jot something down, metapad is Notepad without all the Windows bullshit they keep trying to shoehorn.
Does Wordpad still exist? This seems to fit that MO more
Ew
Microsoft HAS to know that people who use notepad want lightweight, not bloat… Right? This HAS to be a joke or malice… And not THAT level of incompetence… Right? Right?
This means it’s also sending your text across the Internet and feeding the stupid fucking models with it.
You know, just what you want from a fucking notepad app.
no. just no. Notepad exists to edit .txt files, not to fucking give me AI shit.
What’s funny is that this likely irritated one of Microsofts own devs enough that they said ‘fuck all of this’ and invented the new cli app called Edit.
It’s under 200kb and runs as a standalone binary if you want. Also supports mouse input.
Did I mention it’s cross platform?
With the tagline:
A simple editor for simple needs.
Just like original Notepad lol
This is cool, but it’s not a replacement for notepad.
I mean it has all the features notepad had.
- You can type into it
It’s a terminal style editor.
Who cares? It does the same thing, maybe except not having different font support and printing.
The people that would use it.
It’s hard to imagine that Notepad of all things has now been enshittified. On Windows, I only ever use Notepad++, but regular ol’ Notepad has been a staple of Windows almost since the beginning. It truly feels like they’ve finished peeling away what little good remained of what Windows used to be.
I’ve been asking for stuff like this. I’m a long time notepad++ user, but I’d much rather not have to install a third party app and just use notepad. Since notepad added tabs I’ve been using it more and more and notepad++ less and less. Having AI editing built in to notepad is awesome.
Your username doesn’t check out… Everything you type in notepad goes to Microsoft now… I can’t understand what is awesome about having an ai try and figure out my text in notes pad.
Would you be better served switching from notepad++ to vs code?
Where does it say everything you type in notepad goes to Microsoft now? It doesn’t lol. The screenshot even shows that the AI can be done completely on device.
You don’t understand how using AI to help with writing is awesome?
Why would I use vs code just for taking notes? I use VS code for programming.
Because everything Microsoft has said, even when using Copilot + AI local still sends data to microsoft. Sound like privacy, is more like pushing the actual resource compute local while still sending data home.
You don’t understand how using AI to help with writing is awesome?
No, I don’t. It is lazy and not awesome at all. Every single research paper that has come out says it does one of two things (often both): wastes your time making you think you are being more efficient when you are not, AND makes you stupid. Your crutch disengages your brain, and makes it harder and harder for you to do it your self.
And if you are taking notes, what the hell is AI doing?
You said notepad++ which has a lot of features via plug ins. So I would assume you would want more functionality than simply a text editor, hence why I said it. If I am stuck on a windows computer, I use it for code AND notes. It works well for either case. There is even an extension for that.
No, using on device AI doesn’t send data to Microsoft - that’s the entire point of it being on-device……
No, I don’t
Ok well at least you acknowledge that you aren’t very forward thinking and don’t have a very good imagination. AI is a tool to be used. It doesn’t make you dumber or lazier unless you are already dumb and lazy to begin with, in which case it just lets you get better results while being dumb and lazy.
I have never heard of anyone using an IDE to take notes before, so that’s a first.
OK, so you haven’t actually looked into any of the studies (there are plenty). It absolutely makes you dumber and lazy while wasting your time.
The amount of garbage that AI puts out is astounding. I am very familiar with it, my department is in charge of facilitating users to use it. I run local LLM’s so I fully understand how offline works.
In the case of copilot+ pc’s "an internet connection is required every so many days. They are explicit that the local processing will be combined with internet processing, and although you can turn it off for periods of time, the model will not be as robust or useful. In addition of course they are still sending all that data back with refresh by simply using windows so there is that too.
Calling VS Code an IDE is a stretch. Are you sure you are not confusing it with Visual Studio?
The funniest part about all of this is that VS Code has AI all through it.
Happy that I switched to Linux
Ah yes because who would want useful free features? Not you!
If I wanted AI I could go to some shit website and use it. Just like I don’t want a “useful free” toilet in my car, I don’t want brain-damaging spyware in my notepad.
- But now you don’t have to go to some shit website, you can use it directly where you want it.
- It’s not spyware.
That’s what wordpad was for. Many just want a simple text editor without any cloud features. You might be using a a temp scratch pad and when the cloud keeps storing your temp passwords and keys it isn’t very secure.
Windows should have wordpad readded with the AI features as well.Where does this say that it is temp storing you passwords and keys in the cloud?
“Useful free features” like the entire OS and all the tools associated with it?
Like AI built directly into a text editor.
I’m beginning to doubt the accuracy of your username.
Why?
People love free and useful features. Cramming AI into notepad is not useful in the slightest. This is just one more unnecessary AI interaction platform in an os already chock full of them.
So AI isn’t useful in the slightest? ChatGPT? Claude?
You know you don’t have to use AI in it, right?
So AI isn’t useful in the slightest?
How is putting AI in a basic text editor useful? Or is this a situation where you are just defending the concept of the usefulness of shoving bots in every single piece of software possible?
AI has some useful things it can do, but many more useless things, like just being shoved into something to try to mine even more of your data under the guide of ‘usefulness’.
You know you don’t have to use AI in it, right?
No, I just have to see the prompt every time I use the software just so lazy mouth breathers don’t have to expend the mental energy to go to another app to ask their mental pacifier to do all the hard work for them.
How is putting AI in a basic text editor useful?
Because writing/editing text is the most basic use of LLMs. Pretty self explanatory.
This doesn’t mine your data. Where are you guys all getting that from? The screenshot even explicitly shows it’s on-device.
This doesn’t mine your data.
[citation needed]
Where are you guys all getting that from?
Microsoft mines your data while in Windows, why do you think this will be different.
The screenshot even explicitly shows it’s on-device.
And your device data mines you. Are you really this naive?
You made the claim that it does mine your data, so the onus is on you to provide a source :)
Let me ask you this: do you seriously believe that Microsoft send everything you type back to their servers? Like do you honestly believe that?
Is Microsoft not aware what Notepad is actually used for?
Not writing or coding. No one uses it for anything except when Microsoft forces someone to use it as a default text editor.
Hard disagree, it’s fantastic for dumping log info/code snippets into and stripping formatting off strings.
I use notepad just about every day to dump some kind of information temporarily as to not cause a massive formatting fuck up in word or excel or whatever.
Ctrl + Shift + V strips all formatting and just copies it in as plain text
Wouldn’t any text editor with a delinter be superior
Not every company allows uncontrolled software. Sometimes you have to live with the hammer you were given.
I don’t know any software company that would not allow their users to have an IDE
just fucking great. my work laptop opens notepad in 2-3s after my w11 upgrade and now it will propably need 6s or something. fucking bloat. In Private i use Fedora and Mint
Can you get Sublime or Notepad++?
already have it, after that update
