Edit: Oops, it is /r/Tennessee, not /r/ProgressiveHQ
Tennessean here who tried to organize on my state/city subreddits. Can confirm this kind of partisan censorship is not new.
A while ago I made a innocuous enough post on my city’s sub about a “Release the Epstein Files” billboard that went up and was paid for by our local Mobilize chapter. Within an hour it was the most upvoted post of the past month. Within 2, it was removed without reason and I was blocked and banned permantly
That’s Reddit, I was banned from a Pokemon Go subreddit for being against Niantic forcibly leaving their sandbox environment on iOS.
We need to be careful on Lemmy. Only the fact that the moderators and admins have goodwill are keeping Lemmy from becoming like Reddit. If Lemmy gets big and starts attracting people who want to pay to take over communities, that will stretch the moderator goodwill to the limits.
The difference being that Lemmy supports multiple communities with the same name.
If an instance is allowing their communities to be sold, they can be defederated.
As the number of users goes up, it becomes more difficult to enforce that way. Even if many people switch communities, when new ones search for the community by name, the one with the most users will pop up first. And it becomes more and more difficult to justify defederating an instance over a couple of communities if the instance has a ton of big communities.
It makes me think that maybe “communities” wasn’t the way to organize, maybe you subscribe to a topic and see all posts for that topic on all instances.
But moderation is good, and defederation is too severe a tool to use for moderation. It feels like there is no good solution.Piefed has topics I think (I’m mostly on mobile so not something I use but I remember it being there when I set up my account)
I was banned from Reddit by Reddit for calling out a shill. And then they censored my post and deleted it from my data request so that it was impossible to prove I wasn’t inciting violence. That whole place is fucked.
It sounds exactly like the behavior of Reddit moderators. The entire platform was a form of hidden marketing; if anyone discovered it, they would flag or ban you.
Super curious about the Pokemon Go thing, wasn’t able to find anything on Google though. Could you tell what to search or share a link? Thanks <3
Reddit mostly cleared that up by deleting the posts, and banning the users. They couldn’t risk looking like they did anything wrong, like working alongside a company to check for running apps on iOS, when it’s specifically designed to be sandboxed. Not surprisingly, other users discovered Apple was turning a blind eye to the attempts to check systems memory for hooks.
I’m not surprised the amount of propaganda here in Tennessee about that race is staggering.
I’m not in that district… But we still have commercials, radio and television along billboards and small signs.
So much spin both sides.
We MUST Protect Jeffrey Epstein!
-Republicans!
We need to stop attacking pedophiles!
- Ted Cruz
This is why Reddit is garbage and anyone that still has an account on there is only fueling the fire. Fuck Reddit and their mods
Reddit’s glory days were when it was big enough to have consistently interesting stuff, especially in the niche subs, but not so big that bad actors (corporatization, foreign influence, domestic partisan bots, hate groups) could enshitify it. Now it’s practically unusable.
Ice soap and 2AM chili were peak reddit.
Knowledge is power. France is bacon.
You think Lemmy is better? Mods here are engaging in the same shitty behaviours. Lack of moderator accountability is a serious issue on this platform.
Honestly yes, I have not had much problems with mods (and admins!) deleting the words I’ve taken time out of my day to write.
Free Luigi Mangione!
You’ve been lucky.
I’ll give it more time then. I spent years on Reddit and intend to spend years here.
Public mod log is a big accountability improvement over the absence of information Reddit has
Remember when the person behind GamingOnLinux decided to leave Lemmy after someone pointed out their community manipulation tactics in the modlog? Something that you have to assume they had been able to get away with as a Reddit mod. They then took to Mastodon or something to complain about how a modlog being public is “bad design”.
What kind of agenda would a GamingOnLinux powermod push?
IMO the biggest flaw is that the mod log doesn’t append a copy of the content that was deleted. It allows mods to just straight up lie.
From what I have seen, removed comments definitely are still visible in the modlog. But if the mod just bans the user instead of removing the comment, all the user’s comments are automatically removed as a result and are not visible in the modlog. All that said, you are correct, this can be abused by moderators who understand the distinction and take advantage of it.
But really it’s a human problem. As long as humans get power, they will misuse it. Perhaps not all, but some will.
i mean lemmy def is better. we dont have one ahole controlling everything here.
Modding attracts a certain type.
As part of the LW Community Team, I’ve tried to combat this in a couple ways.
One is that when we need moderators for a community I don’t just put up a post that says “who wants to mod?” Instead I try to draft specific individuals one at a time who are relevant to that community.
You wouldn’t believe how many people just tell me no. They have time to post to Lemmy a dozen times a day, but they just don’t have time to mod c/threepostsaweek
The other is that I try not to just keep recruiting mods we already have. It’s very easy to turn to the people already doing the modding and ask them to pick up just one more, but we’ve seen what that has done to Reddit, and I’d rather not repeat it.
But all this takes time and effort, and it doesn’t seem to have much effect yet. I probably just need to keep at it.
Exactly
I absolutely have observed mods on Lemmy engaging in the same shitty behaviors (I am sitting on a post about a little cabal of !progressivepolitics@lemmy.world people who seem to be trying to rig the discourse in a particular direction to meet their electoral goals). But the simple fact of it being less centralized and more transparent (and with more of a culture of effective pushback against the mods) makes it a lot harder. They can’t just say “lol get fucked” like the mod from this post did and have that be the end of the story.
Plus federation means that the admins can’t just step in and shut down any competing communities unless they are on their instance. And if that happens, it just starts up on another instance.
I hope you realize Lemmy is just as bad, maybe even worse
We have MAGA mods suppressing voter turnout?
Because obviously only MAGA can be bad people. Yeepee China and Russian number one!
/s needed because we’re on Lemmy
I’m not sure if you’re American, but for me as an American Maga impacts my life many times more than china or Russia so maga’s evil is far more relevant in my life. But either way you are doing a lot of whataboutism.
We have .ml propaganda blaming our only hope of resistance for everything the Nazis do.
It’s not much different from the projection tactic the GOP use. Just in this case it’s “you didn’t stop it”.
Ml dont have much influence and we can easily remove them by blocking or defederating them because no one controls lemmy and that is the beauty of lemmy.
Many instances defederated .ml and you can block the instance.
But lemmy allows for various viewpoints unlike reddit which is mostly run by the same mods in every large subreddit.
They have been playing ads on TV consistently for them. Hers saying she wants to help try to keep health insurance available, not get premiums raised and help the people of Tennessee.
His saying she’s a radical that was opposed to ICE agents and trying to bully them by blocking them with her car.
His ads have nothing policy based ever said, because it sounds like none of his policies help the people. I guess he is pro tariffs or something, idk
His saying she’s a radical that was opposed to ICE agents and trying to bully them by blocking them with her car.
Shit, that makes me want to vote for her more than her own ad. Someone willing to personally take action to stop the Gestapo?
The right never campaign on policy because if they did they wouldn’t get any votes.
What does progressivehq have to do with the Tennessee subreddit?
Oops, you are 100% correct, I fixed the title.
If I recall a similar thing happened to the San Antonio subreddit. Something like it was taken over during the mod revolt, and the new mods seem to have very specific interests.
The /r/canada sub has long been controlled by far right people as well. There’s been an effort to seize control of city / state / country subs.
That’s why Reddit is the shit hole it is.
Man, fuck reddit. If you aren’t a conservative anything can get you modded or banned.
Its fucking wild seeing people still talking about how biased reddit is against people on the right. Go onto any big subreddit and you’ll see their no politics rule means no left wing politics.
Same with Lemmy but in reverse…
Given that conservatism is just bigotry in a trench coat, I’ve no issue there.
I’m deeply offended that you’re posting Steve’s personal propaganda claiming he’s a comedian.
The guy literally does comedy tours. I guess I’ll just go ahead and buy those tickets…
Why? Isn’t he a comedian?
No, but he does play one on YouTube.
Define comedian. If you make money off doing comedy or are attempting to I would call you a comedian.
Steve is both intelligent and funny. This person is just shitty.
I know who he is I’ve liked his stuff before I’m just trying to back them into a corner where they have to admit they are so self obsessed they think only their sense of humor is “correct”.
On one hand, I think this is why social media should be introduced to governments in an “official” capacity, kinda like how former Presidents and other officials would use twitter as a way to reach the masses about important news or whatever. There should be “official” accounts that are tied to certain positions that would be used to moderate different communities, such as city- or state-wide ones like r/Tennessee.
But then, there’s the whole deal of America very quickly spiraling into fascism.
This is where the fediverse could shine. For example, the House of Representatives could have a server, and each member would have a username on that server. Much like how email currently works. It wouldn’t be beholden to the whims of a corporation.
As a gay black man…
Does it have to be feta? What about BlueCheeseProto?
Fucking Reddit.
Time to get in touch with Mr. Hoffstetter and point him and his millions of followers in this direction.
Can’t except much better from a reddit mod team.
Lemmy isnt Better, all the mod rejects from Reddit are mods on Lemmy and are using any tiny speck of power to do what Reddit mods would do
Thing is tho, you own r/bastard mods, you own it entirely
You own c/bastardmods.lemmy.bastard, people move to c/bastardmods.lemmy.fuckyou
It kinda fucks with me when mindlessly scrolling and being like “didn’t I see this exact post not 10
bseconds ago?”. Then realizing it’s a separate instance.Edit to clarify.
That problem isn’t unique to Lemmy, though. Reddit had many similar duplicate subs.
From
The start page of the internet
To:
this tiny little corner on the internet
Reddit sure has come far
At one point it was a glorious place. Then 5 people became admins and mods of the most popular 100 sub reddits and began controlling the narrative to fit their beliefs. In my opinion reddit has been dead for at least 5 years now
Front page, I believe was what they called themselves. But yeah, it’s been a glorious fall.
