Edit: this is meant to be a shitpost. I don’t care about your favorite series/universe. You do you.
Star Trek is one of if not the most prominent Science Fiction series in our culture.
Star Wars is one of if not the most prominent “Science” based Fantasy series in our culture.
They really aren’t at all similar on the most fundamental level. They just use similar set dressing.
Science Fiction v. Space Fantasy
Yea, that’s the right term
I think it’s a dumb debate personally.
I love my space exploration show. I also love my space wizard drama, and my space politics show, and my wibbly wobbly spacey wacey show. I just like goofy shows in space.
Except Picard. I don’t care for Picard.
I think it’s a dumb debate personally.
Seriously.
Babylon 5 is obviously the better one.
These comparisons feel like people trying to compare Michael Jordan and Babe Ruth and asking which was the better athlete.
Even though it’s pure fan service, I loved the 3rd season of Picard
I found Picard enjoyable while I was watching, but retrospectively I can’t remember a single scene I enjoyed. It’s fine, but it’s ephemera.
Post TNG and Voyager, they’ve been fairly blah with a handful of decent standout episodes.
Maybe it’s because I grew up with these shows, and now I’m old I just want something with a bit more heft.
It’s just all seems like light entertainment these days. Something akin to The Expanse is what I’m after.
Post TNG and Voyager, they’ve been fairly blah with a handful of decent standout episodes.
Lower decks! Lower decks! Lower decks!
not gonna sub to paramount not gonna sub to paramount not gonna sub to paramount.
I don’t subscribe to disney either. so I’ve basically missed out of anything that wasn’t on netflix. and I’m probably going to cancel netflix too.
You have an objection to sailing the high seas?
yeah I’m one of those idiots who think artists should be paid for their labors :|
I know, it’s like… so last century. I did some arrrrrgghmatey kinda stuff when I was younger but not since like… newsgroup releases back in the protoweb days.
artists should be paid for their labors
I get that, but if you’ll never pay for paramount, I imagine if you asked the artists whether they’d rather have their work stolen or never viewed at all I suspect they’d choose the former.
Got a blu-ray player?
Mail some cash to the artists then.
not gonna sub
to paramountnot gonna subto paramountnot gonna subto paramount.There, I’ve fixed it for you.
Now do like the rest of us Orions and watch the best Star Trek since TNG.
ech… I’m one of those ancient weirdos who want artists to get paid for their work. and I’m already in front of screens too much for work and gaming, corpulent etc.,.
And you think production is going to share their profits from a finished series with the artists?
and I’m already in front of screens too much for work and gaming, corpulent etc.,.
That I get 100%
And you think production is going to share their profits from a finished series with the artists?
I don’t know if it’s still applicable to productions taking place today across the board, but SAG still exists so I have to believe a large number of hollywood productions still give residuals to people…?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual_(entertainment_industry)
I know for many it’s a pittance but better something than nothing at all.
I’m probably thinking too much into all this and will catch up sometime in the future after the apocalypse. thanks for the insight.
If I’m getting this article correctly, they’re only getting paid for the success of the show within 90 days of release on a streaming platform. Everything else is based on the streaming service buying the license to show the series.
So the only way to maybe get them some additional pay would be for you to purchase it through some non streaming method like buying a dvd from amazon, or to wait for paramount to sell the license to a new streaming service and you take part in the whatever percentage of the service is required to watch the show within 90 days for them to get a bonus.
No.
The Expanse has ruined my enjoyment of most space sci-fi shows. It was too good
Try the expense audiobooks. They are as good and better than the TV show
Oh my!
Idk, Star Wars and Star Trek only share the sense that they’re both in space, overall both very different and we like both. Personally we like Star Wars more because autism brain but yeah start trek is good too :3
I wanted to try Star Trek recently, but found out it’s like 1000 episodes and 15 movies, so it might take a while. Though I’ve heard not everything is worth watching.
Can anyone from Star Trek’s fan base provide some more insights on which shows can be safely skipped, if any?
As for watch order, I’m gonna go with release date order, unless there are any special circumstances.
Though I’ve heard not everything is worth watching.
You heard wrong 😎
Seriously, if you ask ten Trekkies you’ll get twelve opinions on what’s good, what isn’t, and why. My best advice is to try everything, skip a few seasons ahead if a show is not resonating at first, and if it still isn’t hitting the mark for you at that point move on to the next series. Most shows* take a while to reach their potential, but until the recent stuff they’re all episodic enough that you can feel free to jump around a bit.
*The original series is the exception, it pretty much hits the ground running.
The ones worth watching in my opinion are, The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, finally Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks together. As for The Original Series, Enterprise, Discovery, Cadets, Picard, and the rest can be skipped. The Original Series is fun to go back to but it’s so unlike the rest I can’t get into it.
Personally, I liked Enterprise. Flock is my favorite ST doctor by a wide margin (though I haven’t seen anything newer than enterprise, other than one of the reboot movies).
It’s a different feel from the series that came before it, way more ad-hoc with what they are doing since they are the first human ship to boldly explore the unknown.
Putting strange new worlds above TOS is inconceivable to me. S1 of TOS alone has several episodes well above the best of SNW (Corbomite maneuver, city on the edge of forever, Balance of Terror). Though there’s also a decent amount of poorly aged material… pretty much agreed otherwise. Also, I agree they should watch SNW, just not in lieu of TOS
The only real comparison I can draw between the two is both have disappointed me by moving away from their established brands and disappointing me.
Strange new worlds is amazing and reclaims that established spirit.
No
Star Trek going back into its own timeline isn’t something I’m excited for. I want to see what’s next. Its probably good, but it feels like revisions when I’m waiting for the next next generation.
What happens when a stormtrooper shoots at an unnamed redshirt?
Storm trooper still misses, but red shirt dies of heart attack. Or they dodge, slip on a replicated banana and hit their head on the Conn and die, while sending the enterprise on a spin near a black hole. Now Chewbacca has to charm nurse Chappel or the Kryptonians will take advantage and board the ship.
Take that AI, this is human made slop. You’re not better than me.
It’s like the toast with jam and a cat. The fabric of existence itself will be in danger.
Is that like the buttered bread thing always landing down so you strap it to a cat thing?
Yes, it is that. 🙂
Awesome! Never heard that phrase with jam had to be sure.
but the shots fired were from red shirt ensigns
What would happen if storm troopers shot at red shirts?
Wow. Simultaneously, endless war and world peace, as no one dies from war.
I feel like doctor who is more of a comparison to Star Trek no.
If you want to compare current stuff, then both are trash. sequel trilogy at least had the decency of being entertaining garbage while disco was 10% plot and 90% people talking about the 10% in case you missed anything while looking at tiktok.
original trilogy and next generation are both good shit, and are good for different reasons.
Hot take: Babylon 5 is right at the top there with Star Trek.
I prefer the shitpost genre. We live in the Bronze Age of shitposting, can’t wait for what comes next.
Shitpost factor 9, engage!
I mean, if the stunt doubles from Spaceballs would have made an animated musical series directed by Jar Jar for baby yodeler it would have been better than Star Wars, the western with space decorations …wizards in space
(mini rpg)
Andor and Solo are good, most of the rest of Star Wars including all the “space wizard” stuff is shallow as hell and far more casually cynical than Star Trek is.
I’m not sure how you can defend Solo when one of its subplots is literally “the exploitative plight of droids is funny lmao”
And also "the one droid fighting for droids’ rights is
spoiler
literally turned into a permanently-enslaved appliance at the end."
valid, I am not defending it there, but at least it acknowledged the concept…
star trek catching up fast at being dogshit with every show now being jack bauer
