This. Even if we view this as corruption of their original mission (it isn’t), at a certain point, the only thing to do with a structure that’s rotted so much is to pull it down and start fresh. Corruption is cancer, and allowing any corrupt entities to exist within the system means that corruption will spread back in.

Absolutely, if only to make it really clear to future Americans that this kind of behavior from a government agency is completely unacceptable and leads to real consequences. Besides that, it’s a way easier policy lift than Defund the Police - we could just go back to how we did things in the 90s and bring back Immigration and Naturalization Services, who were more like DMV workers making sure paperwork was in order than the psychopath gun wielding spec ops wannabes that have always made up Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Of course, since this is such an obvious good idea, the second worst group of people in America are going into overdrive right now - “Dems Are Begging Their Own to Drop ‘Abolish ICE’ - A new memo circulating on Capitol Hill urges Democratic lawmakers to instead embrace reforming the agency.” (arc)

Yep, ICE needs to relegated to the American History Hall of Shame,.along with Slavery, The Native American Genocide, the Japanese Internment on WW2, etc., and of course, MAGA.

And I’m not even kidding. When this is over, we should erect an American History Hall of Shame in Washington DC, and require schools to add curriculum that includes rigorous discussion of our indelible sins, at every level of schooling, from elementary through high school. High Schools should include it on their field trips.

American students should be taught about the evils that they have a civic responsibility to actively resist. I don’t how the rest of the word could ever trust America again, if we don’t acknowledge our past, and show true remorse and contrition, and pledge to be more vigilant of Democracy in the future.

I support change.

A change from ICE and DHS existing to not.

100 fucking percent. If any part of the current U.S. government should be just scrapped and burned in a fire with bipartisan support, it’s the patriot act and everything that came with it.

Given how these fascist fuckers operate, it’s no surprise they would wrap one of the most unconstitutional and unpatriotic pieces of legislation in American history inside of a bill with a name like that.

Just like Trump sending a small military to invade American cities and murder Americans was for our “safety.” So are all of the crack downs on free speech, protests, constant surveillance and invasion of our privacy. It’s all for our own good, and if you disagree you’re unpatriotic and keeping America from being “great.” The audacious horseshit logic and brainwashing is fucking insane.

I sentence the patriot act and Common good “constitutionalism” to kiss my ass.

“It’s awkshully more patriotic of you to willingly hand over your rights and liberties. For your own safety and for the common good.”

What a shocking twist that the “anti-elitist” Harvard law professor (I’m not even kidding) who came up with the legal theory of common good constitutionalism, just happens to be obsessed with the legal scholar who helped make the German constitution secondary to the legal authority of Hitler.

The idea that “we” (the majority) voted for the leader to hold office, and therefore if he wants to wipe his ass with the constitution and tell us he’s doing it for our own safety and the good of the country, that’s legal order and the constitution working like it’s supposed to, is fascist horseshit, and just an obvious rip off of the laws that allowed Hitler to come to power. Especially when our “leader” also straight up “jokes” about cancelling elections.

Carl Schmitt

Schmitt was the presiding legal expert at meetings during the early stages of the Third Reich that resulted in a formal decision to bypass the process of formulating a new constitution. An approach that would nominally maintain the former constitution was adopted, even though the Führerprinzip (Leader Principle) was given transcendent supra-legal status.

Führerprinzip

‘Leader Principle’ was the basis of executive authority in the government of Nazi Germany. It placed Adolf Hitler’s word above all written law, and meant that government policies, decisions, and officials all served to realize his will.

How “lucky” are we to coincidentally have a leader who claims to be guided by his own morality rather than any written laws…?

“the central aim of the constitutional order is to promote good rule, not to ‘protect liberty’ as an end in itself" …Within this tradition, he claims law is defined as “an ordinance of reason promulgated by political authorities for the common good.”…Vermeule states that law in this sense is "not tethered to particular written instruments of civil law or the will of the legislators who created them” but instead embody rational determinations of the common good, and it is those determinations, as well as the natural law background against which they are made, which constitute the law. Vermeule says that these principles include "a candid willingness to "legislate morality

Maybe the one thing DOGE did was free us from the antiquated Federal Govt. that suffered from a quagmire of stagnant thinking and inability to evolve to meet the needs of the people.

But the day your neighbor can’t vote, that day is just fine (that day has already passed)

As long as they’re over the line I don’t care what got them over it. The important thing is they’re on this side of it now.

She was whiter than the others. Also, it was caught on video from multiple angles.

If you read the commentary, opinion on ice was already bad. So it was the line for some people, yes, but many others no.

Typically watching a murder on video makes a difference.

Nothing matters until suddenly it does matter