• @Delphia@lemmy.world
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    4422 hours ago

    Honestly where the fuck are the gangbangers in all this? All that talk about fuck the police and how hard they are and all and there hasnt been one incidence of ICE being rolled up on by the westside crips.

    • @WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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      56 hours ago

      Forget gangbangers. Protesters and activists should dress like ICE agents. Law enforcement are supposed to wear uniforms for two vital reasons:

      1. So civilians can know who is legitimate law enforcement.

      2. So law enforcement can know who is legitimate law enforcement.

      ICE doesn’t give a shit about (1), as they figure they have enough fire power to kill anyone who tries to arrest or assault them for dressing up like thugs. But they’ve completely forgotten about (2), and in the process have made themselves incredibly vulnerable to nonviolent protest and disruption.

      Forget holding signs. ICE has been rapidly expanded. Not only have the ranks swelled, but all sorts of people like militia members and bounty hunters have been deputized. Which means that not even the ICE agents on the ground are going to know who all is a member of ICE. They’re all wearing masks anyway.

      In the heat of the moment, ICE agents don’t have any way of telling who an ICE agent is.

      Forget holding up signs in protest. What really needs to happen is for every ICE raid to be swarmed by dozens of fake ICE agents. Normally using this tactic on law enforcement would be impersonating a police officer. But since ICE aren’t wearing uniforms, there’s nothing to impersonate!

      Imagine if every ICE raid was accompanied by dozens randos showing up and just getting in the way and causing chaos. Show up dressed as masked ICE thugs. Collect some of the immigrants being detained, put them in your own unmarked cars, and let them go a few miles away. Walk into a raid site like you own the place and are meant to be there. Then start taking up space, giving contradictory orders, standing in doorways, just generally causing any kind of nonviolent chaos you can think of. Turn their whole raid into a giant shit show of a circus.

      It’s time to weaponize ICE’s lack of identification. They don’t ID themselves to avoid accountability. But it’s time they were reminded of exactly why officers started wearing uniforms in the first place.

    • @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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      3022 hours ago

      That’s because ICE are cowards. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re purposefully leaving areas under direct gang control alone.

      • flandish
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        314 hours ago

        they are, at the very least, not performing these kidnappings in “open carry”/“constitutional” states. For obvious reasons.

        • @anomnom@sh.itjust.works
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          27 hours ago

          They are now leaving farming and roofing guys alone because the Tysons and Blackrocks are getting nervous about labor shortages.

          • flandish
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            16 hours ago

            odd how that happens, huh? Engels is laughing or crying in his grave…

      • @GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works
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        22 hours ago

        They’re goal is fear and intimidation. They are going to every area and doing one or two workplace arrrests so that nobody feels safe. They’re not actually ready for a coordinated resistance. No cops are actually trained for anything like that.