• @Denjin@lemmings.world
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    9219 hours ago

    Where’s the well regulated militia you Americans scream about so loudly when someone suggests not letting a mentally ill child own an assault rifle?

    Isn’t this exactly the government tyranny that argument is used to defend against?

    • @Jerb322@lemmy.world
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      37 hours ago

      This has been asked many, many times. Most of them are on Drumpy’s side. The same fucks on Jan6.

    • @SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml
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      2717 hours ago

      Where’s the well regulated militia you Americans scream about

      So, one could argue that the well regulated militia in question is constituted by the National Guard, as they nominally are the armed forces of individual States, and can be nationalized under certain circumstances.

      Except for the fact that Trump just nationalized the California National Guard when he’s nominally not supposed to…

      • Lv_InSaNe_vL
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        310 hours ago

        One should argue that. Even though the national guard acts as a branch of the military, technically they are whats considered a “organized milita” and are actually under the control of the state government

      • Echo Dot
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        915 hours ago

        The way the legal system in the US works is just incredible. There are things that are very much illegal, but if the president does them apparently everyone is just fine with it.

        • @Triasha@lemmy.world
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          1012 hours ago

          The majority of citizens are not “fine” with it, we are watching the results of the capture of every branch of government.

          The template for this actually played out in Texas. Texas has a very weak governors office in terms of formal powers. Under George W Bush the Republican party systematically took control of each state office and coordinated their efforts to effect the agenda of Bush, Perry, and now Abbott.

          They are doing the same thing at the federal level with project 2025 under Trump, they took the supreme court, and now they have removed the career civil servants that would refuse illegal orders from Trump.

          If history of other dictatorships is any guide the powers of ICE will be expanded steadily and the other law enforcement agencies and military will be continually overshadowed by ICE and eventually subordinated to them, like the Republican guard of Iran or the SS in Nazi Germany.

    • @Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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      They’re too busy gargling republican boot to bother rising up against the tyranny they’ve cried about for decades.

      To a unnerving amount of people’s surprise, they only cared about the power of the state when they thought it was being used improperly (having a tolerant democracy), and are more than happy to see it used the way they want (hurting brown people)

      • Echo Dot
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        715 hours ago

        It’ll come for them at the finish. These brown shirts should pick up a history book. The people who helped the Nazis rise to power did not live to get to enjoy it.

    • @Guidy@lemmy.world
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      112 hours ago

      Hey dumbass, it turns out that:

      1. Each state has its own laws about this. Where I live the same state constitution that ALSO specifically grants us the right to own firearms for self defense explicitly forbids belonging to any private militia.

      2. My part (Democrats) is so overwhelmingly anti gun that 99% of aren’t armed to begin with. So precious militia you’re smugly pretending to ask about? Yeah you’re looking at them in the post to begin with. They’re all boot licking fascists.

      Nice try though, pretending disarming Americans is the answer to anything other than more deportations, more oppression, and so on.

      I’ll give you this: literally neither side gives a shit about the actual underlying problem: mental health. Over half of ALL gun deaths in the USA each year are from suicide. You don’t need an AR15 for that. Banning and removing all guns successfully won’t stop all those people wanting to be dead, but my fellow Democrats don’t care and the fascists sure don’t.

      • @Denjin@lemmings.world
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        111 hours ago

        LOL. My point was, when you have come down of your high horse, that the opponents of gun control hide behind the Second Amendment and the need to protect themselves from government overreach, but those are the exact same people who jump up to volunteer to do that exact bit of overreach.

        Plus I get to have a little dig at your country’s ridiculous gun laws at the same time.

        • Lv_InSaNe_vL
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          110 hours ago

          opponents of gun control hide behind the second amendment

          What? That doesn’t even make any sense. Anti-Gun folks continually make laws against the second amendment (Imo, I know this is gonna get a lot of flack here but that’s not the point.

          The second amendment protects the rights of civilians owning guns. And folks who are pro-gun tend to overwhelmingly lean right after years of bastardization from the left.

          Maybe actually read the second amendment, and the arguments made by both parties before you “take a little dig”

    • @naught101@lemmy.world
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      619 hours ago

      The thing that I don’t get about those people is, what do they think the “well regulated” part means?