• BlackLaZoR
        link
        fedilink
        -22 months ago

        Socialism, communism, fascism, nazism - it’s all the same shit, the only difference is just the idological mumbo-jumbo on the surface level

          • BlackLaZoR
            link
            fedilink
            12 months ago

            Yeah, my parents and grandparents lived through socialism in Poland. Heard enough from them to not have any delusions about it.

            • Random_Character_A
              link
              fedilink
              22 months ago

              How americanized of you.

              You seem to confuse free education and healthcare, government control of essential resources (water, electricity) and government taking case of the poor and disabled to some authoritarian communist shitshow behind the iron curtain.

              • BlackLaZoR
                link
                fedilink
                02 months ago

                You seem to confuse free education and healthcare, government control of essential resources (water, electricity) and government taking case of the poor and disabled to some authoritarian communist shitshow behind the iron curtain.

                You’re mistaking socialism for welfare state. Socialism IS the authoritarian shitshow behind iron curtain

                • Random_Character_A
                  link
                  fedilink
                  22 months ago

                  If that’s so, why do political left wing parties name themselves according to authoritarian shitshow behind iron curtain.

                  • BlackLaZoR
                    link
                    fedilink
                    02 months ago

                    Because it appeals to misguided people who have no idea what shit show it was.

                    Seriously, in Polish Sejm there’s currently no party with “Socialism” in the name. That brand doesn’t sell here

                    In reality the model you described earlier runs in majority of European countries - state run health care + state run or at least state controlled critical infrastructure + some welfare for poor - all of this financed by taxes collected from capitalist economy.

                    By all possible definitions it’s a welfare state

                    Most of civilized world outside of US works like that.