That’s going to be pretty soon at this rate. The number one reason people are looking the other way is because they’re afraid of losing their jobs and healthcare. We’re heading for a bad recession this summer where a lot of people will lose both anyways. So they will be all out of excuses.
This is also why fired federal workers are one of the angriest groups so far.
Also, food isn’t the only way to get people to turn to violence. Violence against a population, collective punishment, and unnecessarily dangerous work conditions work as well. The American Revolution turned from a political squabble to a military one when the British heavily occupied Boston as punishment. Labor strikes used to be violent, mainly out of necessity.
Most people do not care about some corrupt politician whose activities seem inconsequential to their own circumstances is getting away. It needs to affect them in a tangible way for people to care.
In the opulence of America, things would have to change dramatically. Like, across the entire nation people witnessing their neighbors and family members dying kind of dramatically. Existential threat in a clear and obvious way that even a moron can understand kind of dramatically. Short of that, this nation is addicted to corruption.
Too many will celebrate because he has a D by his name, completely ignorant of the fact that high profile Dems not being held accountable for blatantly breaking laws hurts Dem turnout nationwide.
Adams walking will hurt Dems in the midterms, and give trumpets someone to point to and say his corruption makes trump’s ok.
The party has to meet the standards of its voters, and Dem voters will always have a higher standard than Republican voters.
Bullshit. Everyone who voted for Adams in NYC knows this is fucked. Unlike Republicans, Democrats would be thrilled to get this asshat out of office because we don’t think corruption makes our team stronger. No one is celebrating this because he was a Democrat, there’s nothing a liberal would cheer about this shit show.
Sure, they tend to always hate mayors in NYC because neoliberal primary donations ensure the Dem voters don’t have a good option in the general and Republicans have a chance
But name an elected Dem in a leadership position who has called for Adams’ resignation, I can wait.
What about a house rep who’s been in office 3 years makes you think of him as “an elected Dem in a leadership position”?
I did see this tho:
In July 2020, inspired by the George Floyd protests, a petition to recall Garcia was approved by the Long Beach City Clerk. Activists cited Garcia’s “immoral leadership” and financial support from the Long Beach Police Officers Association, the union that represents local police.[64] On November 9, 2020, the mayoral recall was canceled in the wake of the national election. Activist Franklin Sims claimed he and his supporters were being intimidated.[65]
That’s not even getting into him literally being a Republican hiding behind a D:
Garcia was the California Youth Coordinator for George W. Bush’s 2000 presidential campaign.[49][50][51] He also founded the Long Beach Young Republicans in 2005. Describing himself as socially liberal and fiscally conservative, Garcia guided and organized the Young Republicans, which developed a charter that was recognized as an official club by the Los Angeles County Republicans.[52] Garcia also worked as an aide to Republican former vice mayor Frank Colonna when he was on the City Council and ran Colonna’s unsuccessful bid in the 2006 Long Beach, California mayoral election.[53]
The only reason he has a D is he couldn’t win with a R…
But that’s off topic:
What about a house rep who’s been in office 3 years makes you think of him as “an elected Dem in a leadership position”?
But name an elected Dem in a leadership position …
That’s the real zinger, ain’t it? The Dem’s don’t have much in the way of actual leaders doing any, ya know, leading. Bernie, AOC, and to a lesse degree Tim Waltz are the only Dem-leaning elected officals doing any particular commenting at all and even they are focused elsewhere.
And all three of them get snubbed by party leadership…
I am optimistic about the new DNC chair, but that’s still not enough. We need to start focusing on state chairs as well, but voters have literally zero say in any chair.
The Democratic party is fundamentally undemocratic.
It will never be an easy fix, or a good time to do it. But we should have fixed it decades ago, and fixing it now is better than fixing it in 2035.
We can’t waste the current DNC chair, but we also can’t assume he can fix anything except the next presidential primary and getting rid of the victory fund so state parties can put up a fight
The cracking in the DNC was obvious. Even back to the 2000 Supreme Court interference with the Bush Gore Election. Kerry was a weak candiate in 2004, Obama only barely got past Hillary Clinton in the primary because he was wildly popular when he should have sailed to victory without issue but then they failed to keep any inovations from that 8 year period (get out the vote, social media savy, youth outreach, etc. ) when Clinton came sweeping back in 2016 and wondered how they lost that momentum.
but then they failed to keep any inovations from that 8 year period (get out the vote, social media savy, youth outreach, etc. ) when Clinton came sweeping back in 2016 and wondered how they lost that momentum.
It’s not a secret why it shook out that way…
Obama held a grudge against the DNC as an organization, not just for siding with Hillary, but then not supporting him in the general.
Which lead to Obama being one of the first (might be the only) to not nominate a DNC chair.
So the people who worked against him, nominated one of their own.
And they repeated in 2012.
So if you’re wondering why Obama didn’t permanently change the party…
He just fucking choose not to. Voters did their part and he let us down out of personal pride to show he was more important than the party
And that let neoliberals hold onto the party till about 3 months ago. Clinton’s people didn’t have to sweep in, because they never had to leave
Whenever a corrupt criminal escapes justice I find myself wondering how much can the People take before they break out the pitchforks
Quite a lot, actually, based on historical precedence.
It’s going to take mass starvation and lack of food access for people to get fed up. It’s always food access that tips the scales.
That’s going to be pretty soon at this rate. The number one reason people are looking the other way is because they’re afraid of losing their jobs and healthcare. We’re heading for a bad recession this summer where a lot of people will lose both anyways. So they will be all out of excuses.
This is also why fired federal workers are one of the angriest groups so far.
Also, food isn’t the only way to get people to turn to violence. Violence against a population, collective punishment, and unnecessarily dangerous work conditions work as well. The American Revolution turned from a political squabble to a military one when the British heavily occupied Boston as punishment. Labor strikes used to be violent, mainly out of necessity.
I’d argue that it is back to being necessary.
Most people do not care about some corrupt politician whose activities seem inconsequential to their own circumstances is getting away. It needs to affect them in a tangible way for people to care.
In the opulence of America, things would have to change dramatically. Like, across the entire nation people witnessing their neighbors and family members dying kind of dramatically. Existential threat in a clear and obvious way that even a moron can understand kind of dramatically. Short of that, this nation is addicted to corruption.
Im not going to riot over this guy, sorry.
Too many will celebrate because he has a D by his name, completely ignorant of the fact that high profile Dems not being held accountable for blatantly breaking laws hurts Dem turnout nationwide.
Adams walking will hurt Dems in the midterms, and give trumpets someone to point to and say his corruption makes trump’s ok.
The party has to meet the standards of its voters, and Dem voters will always have a higher standard than Republican voters.
That’s just life.
Bullshit. Everyone who voted for Adams in NYC knows this is fucked. Unlike Republicans, Democrats would be thrilled to get this asshat out of office because we don’t think corruption makes our team stronger. No one is celebrating this because he was a Democrat, there’s nothing a liberal would cheer about this shit show.
Dem voters in NYC?
Sure, they tend to always hate mayors in NYC because neoliberal primary donations ensure the Dem voters don’t have a good option in the general and Republicans have a chance
But name an elected Dem in a leadership position who has called for Adams’ resignation, I can wait.
A 10-second Google search.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5178001-garcia-calls-adams-resign/
What about a house rep who’s been in office 3 years makes you think of him as “an elected Dem in a leadership position”?
I did see this tho:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Garcia_(California_congressman)
That’s not even getting into him literally being a Republican hiding behind a D:
The only reason he has a D is he couldn’t win with a R…
But that’s off topic:
That’s the real zinger, ain’t it? The Dem’s don’t have much in the way of actual leaders doing any, ya know, leading. Bernie, AOC, and to a lesse degree Tim Waltz are the only Dem-leaning elected officals doing any particular commenting at all and even they are focused elsewhere.
And all three of them get snubbed by party leadership…
I am optimistic about the new DNC chair, but that’s still not enough. We need to start focusing on state chairs as well, but voters have literally zero say in any chair.
The Democratic party is fundamentally undemocratic.
It will never be an easy fix, or a good time to do it. But we should have fixed it decades ago, and fixing it now is better than fixing it in 2035.
We can’t waste the current DNC chair, but we also can’t assume he can fix anything except the next presidential primary and getting rid of the victory fund so state parties can put up a fight
The cracking in the DNC was obvious. Even back to the 2000 Supreme Court interference with the Bush Gore Election. Kerry was a weak candiate in 2004, Obama only barely got past Hillary Clinton in the primary because he was wildly popular when he should have sailed to victory without issue but then they failed to keep any inovations from that 8 year period (get out the vote, social media savy, youth outreach, etc. ) when Clinton came sweeping back in 2016 and wondered how they lost that momentum.
It’s not a secret why it shook out that way…
Obama held a grudge against the DNC as an organization, not just for siding with Hillary, but then not supporting him in the general.
Which lead to Obama being one of the first (might be the only) to not nominate a DNC chair.
So the people who worked against him, nominated one of their own.
And they repeated in 2012.
So if you’re wondering why Obama didn’t permanently change the party…
He just fucking choose not to. Voters did their part and he let us down out of personal pride to show he was more important than the party
And that let neoliberals hold onto the party till about 3 months ago. Clinton’s people didn’t have to sweep in, because they never had to leave
Tradition or not, there’s no reason the DNC needed Obama to bless a chair candidate. They chose to throw progress and his contributions away.
I’m no democrat. I am an old school American. I am anti fascist.
Adams is a fascist.
Democrat or Republican can be fascist.
The idea that these charges being dismissed with prejudice is bad for trump is bullshit.
They are all in on corruption and fascism together
NYC won’t elect a Republican fascist.
But they elected a democrat one.
god i wish this wasn’t true. he’s a fuckin’ fascist through and through