As the Trump administration weaponizes accusations of antisemitism to justify repression, the Jewish left is rising up.

  • @PunkRockSportsFan
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    632 days ago

    It was the weirdest thing being raised Jewish in the 1980s

    Constantly reminded of the holocaust and to be on alert for fascists.

    But then Israel and Zionism?

    None of it added up.

    “Next year in Jerusalem” my grandparents said this their whole lives.

    “Why don’t we just go there?” I would ask

    Having Jerusalem wasn’t enough.

    They wanted to exterminate Palestinians.

    How is that different than the holocaust?

    • @grue@lemmy.world
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      142 days ago

      Another Lemmy comment I read the other day explained it that “never again” meant “never again against us.”

      • @PunkRockSportsFan
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        172 days ago

        lol the amount of times that was the response to my questions

        • Doom
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          62 days ago

          What am I not understanding here? Did they not want you to see the treatment of the Palestinians or something

          • @PunkRockSportsFan
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            62 days ago

            Religions do not want the children they’re grooming to think critically.

            • @Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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              That is not typically how Judaism works though. At least for the Jews around me, Judaism is a culture centered around asking critical questions. God doesn’t even enter the equation for a great many Jews, that’s not the point. The point is using the tradition, the rituals and the community to remember and better understand the past and to use that understanding to prevent the same kind of tragedy in the future.

              Anyway, that’s the kind of thing we talked about at my sedar.

              • @PunkRockSportsFan
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                31 day ago

                That’s a load of hooey dude. I was raised Jewish.

                God is the first thing. And the last thing in that tradition

                Come on dude. Don’t tell a lie like that.

                It’s so demonstrably false.

                • @Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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                  424 hours ago

                  I mean, different people have different traditions for sure, and I have no intention of invalidating your beliefs and upbringing in any way. And there are of course also different denominations of Judaism, Orthodox and Conservative Jews for example are much more focused on God for certain. But in the US, Reform Jews are the most common and for most Reform Jews tradition and community tend to be the most important tenents, faith in God coming in somewhere behind those.

                  It’s so demonstrably false.

                  That strikes me as extraordinarily difficult to demonstrate…

                  • @PunkRockSportsFan
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                    -223 hours ago

                    Easy demonstration.

                    Me in Jewish Sunday school late 1980s.

                    Rabbi or whoever : god said let there be light and then Adam and Eve and whatnot etc. other hilarious explanations of the world by scientifically illiterates ancient people.

                    Me: “what about the Big Bang? And dinosaurs? The Torah says nothing about cheeseburgers. Why can u not eat one?”

                    ……