You’re repeating the nazi myth about Asiatic hordes and misunderstanding intentionally obfuscated things like the role of blocking brigades. In practice, the USSR didn’t have more bodies on the front until roughly Stalingrad. At which point casualty rates roughly equalized. Turns out it’s easier not to get encircled when you don’t have half the number of troops of the enemy.
That’s not to say that the USSR had the most competent leadership before Zhukov got his shit together, just that you shouldn’t get your understanding of either Stalin, WWII, or Stalin’s role in WWII from memes.
highly mobile, well-coordinated force with superior technology
refining strategy and tactics in order to fight more effectively was hampered by politcs
Yeah no, again, if you didn’t get your understanding of history through memes/pop-culture osmosis, you’d understand how silly these statements were in this context; the soviets were either comparable or better at all 3 compared to nazi germany, and in the case of refining tactics, the western allies too. The USSR’s system of having the political and military officers submit independent reports is why they tend to be much more accurate when compared against enemy reports of their own equipment numbers than the western allies, or especially the nazis (though China and Japanese reports are something else). If you want I can talk about some books I read, but I really feel like you’re not interested in the actual history and it would be a waste of time.
your comparative casualty numbers seem to imply
Did you even look at the numbers? The point is that the USSR didn’t send endless waves of men any more than the germans did, evidenced by the number of military casualties being roughly similar.
Perhaps more preparation to fight the fascists
We’re talking about a country that opened it’s first tractor factory in 1930, in Stalingrad. The USSR saw the writing on the wall and was preparing for this war before anyone else, and that preparation included ensuring the western allies wouldn’t just sit back and continue to support Nazi Germany as they took care of the global threat of communism.
Stalin backed off of trying to micromanage the war effort
Funny, I thought you were going to go with the myth about Stalin hiding in his room for a week when the nazis invaded.
Stalin spent the 30s doing everything in his power to form a bulwark against fascism, the western allies also made non-aggression pacts with Nazi Germany, as they were content to let fascism be the solution to the red menace. Stalin only made his non-aggression pact AFTER every western power refused to make a mutual defense pact, or join in if the USSR committed 1 million troops to an invasion.
Then after dividing Czechoslovakia between Germany and Poland, Hitler invaded Poland and France instead of working with Poland to invade the USSR as the western allies intended.
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You’re repeating the nazi myth about Asiatic hordes and misunderstanding intentionally obfuscated things like the role of blocking brigades. In practice, the USSR didn’t have more bodies on the front until roughly Stalingrad. At which point casualty rates roughly equalized. Turns out it’s easier not to get encircled when you don’t have half the number of troops of the enemy.
The USSR suffered about 9 million casualties due to combat, and 16 million more due to nazi warcrimes and famine.
Germany suffered roughly 5 million
That’s not to say that the USSR had the most competent leadership before Zhukov got his shit together, just that you shouldn’t get your understanding of either Stalin, WWII, or Stalin’s role in WWII from memes.
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Yeah no, again, if you didn’t get your understanding of history through memes/pop-culture osmosis, you’d understand how silly these statements were in this context; the soviets were either comparable or better at all 3 compared to nazi germany, and in the case of refining tactics, the western allies too. The USSR’s system of having the political and military officers submit independent reports is why they tend to be much more accurate when compared against enemy reports of their own equipment numbers than the western allies, or especially the nazis (though China and Japanese reports are something else). If you want I can talk about some books I read, but I really feel like you’re not interested in the actual history and it would be a waste of time.
Did you even look at the numbers? The point is that the USSR didn’t send endless waves of men any more than the germans did, evidenced by the number of military casualties being roughly similar.
We’re talking about a country that opened it’s first tractor factory in 1930, in Stalingrad. The USSR saw the writing on the wall and was preparing for this war before anyone else, and that preparation included ensuring the western allies wouldn’t just sit back and continue to support Nazi Germany as they took care of the global threat of communism.
Funny, I thought you were going to go with the myth about Stalin hiding in his room for a week when the nazis invaded.
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If I recall Stalin was an ally
Stalin spent the 30s doing everything in his power to form a bulwark against fascism, the western allies also made non-aggression pacts with Nazi Germany, as they were content to let fascism be the solution to the red menace. Stalin only made his non-aggression pact AFTER every western power refused to make a mutual defense pact, or join in if the USSR committed 1 million troops to an invasion.
Then after dividing Czechoslovakia between Germany and Poland, Hitler invaded Poland and France instead of working with Poland to invade the USSR as the western allies intended.