Certainly a little more than I was hoping for ($1599 + tax) but with those specs I can stop carrying my steam deck most days and use with GameNative. A lot of support for this SoC out there from the ayn brand. That and can get some decent longevity with it. Eventually will become a little micro home server for me like my other old phones.
Additionally curious about this https://www.qualcomm.com/developer/blog/2026/10/same-day-snapdragon-8-elite-gen-6-upstream-linux-support
Nobody’s gonna buy it, but Motorola gets to say they tried and there just wasn’t a market for GrapheneOS.
1900 euros for 512 gb with no sd card slot. 24-bit/192kHz audio support, but no headphone jack. Why even bother?
I really hope the next generation of Moto G gets graphene support. Somehow their low end phones end up with more useful features than the flagships.
There is no phone on earth that should cost 2000 fucking dollars
For phones like these, which are primarily going to be used by nerds, tech enthusiasts and tinkerers, this is poor launch strategy from Motorola.
Most of the audience for something like this will be turned off by this and all the hype they generated will fizzle out a bit.
They should have started with a mid range launch first, get enthusiasts to rave about it and then upsell these extravagant features to less involved consumers.
Signature is their pro max. Just wait for a new “edge” with GrapheneOS support.
Not justifying the price, its stupid expensive. But please don’t act like this will be the only Motorola with GrapheneOS support.
1,900 Euro equals 2,117.10 United States Dollar
“Prices never go down, they only go up.”
-Every company today
Dafuq.
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I’m ready to bargain so that the motorola would sell me this freak with the ugly Graphene system. start with $200 and downgrade
So it’s going to fail and they’re going to blame Graphene
Looks like it
At least the rumors that it’d be a foldable seem to be wrong.
It’s also initially launching with android 17. The article said that Graphene won’t be ready for it until some time next year. I wonder if the devs are deliberately putting some separation between the hardware launch and OS availability so that they can avoid getting caught up in Motorola’s corporate panic attack when this thing doesn’t sell.
At least the rumors that it’d be a foldable seem to be wrong.
Only priced like one, unfortunately
The foldable is the next one to get support after signature 27.
It doesn’t release with graphene os so that would be stupid, it ships their android.
Not offering a pre-installed GrapheneOS version feels like a misstep. Plenty of people are aware of the brand for security and privacy, and would pay extra to have it pre-installed.
Maybe we will see some re-sellers pop up, but I would prefer direct-from-manufacturer.
Not to mention, they could get the keys right from day one and eliminate (Google’s) “alternate OS is booting” boogieman screen.
Plenty of people are aware of the brand for security and privacy, and would pay extra to have it pre-installed.
This is pure cope, there is no way “plenty of people” are lining up to pay this amount of money for a Motorola phone with a niche operating system.
Just because something isn’t mainstream doesn’t mean it would not make plenty of money.
As was pointed out above, Motorola probably underestimates the casual folks who would pay extra to have GrapheneOS pre-installed, because the GrapheneOS developers are so rabidly against trusting anyone else to do the install.
But many GrapheneOS users just like having a qucik toggle for the microphone and camera.
(Side question: Why the fuck hasn’t such a basic privacy feature made it into basic Android, anyway? Or has it, and I missed it?)
And yes, there’s always a buyer for a phone this expensive. For some people, it will be their only computer for five to ten years, anyway.
They aren’t shipped with GrapheneOS because the developers of GrapheneOS explicitly don’t want this. They dont want any possibility of some backdoor caused by the manufacturer to bring down their reputation.
It not being shipped with GrapheneOS is on purpose.
Yes. I’m waiting for a chill fork of GrapheneOS. I love what the developers have accomplished. LineageOS seems close, but not quite there with features, last I checked.
I was happy with decent default security and privacy in the past, and I could be, again, if it ever returns.
I would be glad to purchase a device from a trusted party, who pre-installed public source code, on open hardware.
I’ll be very pleased if Framework ever releases a phone.
And sure, most people, in general, are clueless, about most things. Point granted.
But the people with a clue about today’s brutal privacy situation want device that is reasonably assured to be respect their wishes, and not chained to the whim of some asshole CEO.
Perfect is lovely. But good enough can still sell very well.
Fairphone with /e/os
Not having it support tap to pay basically makes it a non starting for selling it.
The amount of stupid selling a phone with out that feature, while the same phone other times it works basically would just cause endless problems.
Yes people are that stupid
Personally, I already balked at the size of the screen (~6.8"). The ridiculous price is just the final nail in the coffin.
Mini tablets were 7 inches.
It’s ridiculous; how am I meant to fit something half the size of my dick in my pocket?
How am I meant to fit something seven times the size of my dick in my pocket?
Did you try tucking?
Wait, is this really the size of a nexus 7?
phones have a different aspect ratio than tablets plus the nexus 7 had giant bezels
Fair point on the bezels.
Yeah, I hate that Jeff Bezels guy too!
Just let it hang and sway, let it out bro. This is 🦅 America 🇺🇸, bitches! gunfire, big macs showering from the sky, and jets flying over in formation
(and if you don’t live here then we can bring you some freedom too, and you too can let your freak flag fly)
and if you don’t live here then we can bring you some freedom too
No thanks. I live in a country freer than the US, you guys keep all that to yourselves.
can i come over to play vidya
Sure, just stay for 90 days only.
EDIT : you can smoke the legal weed only if someone gives it to you for free, you can’t buy any.
More big macs for me 😎
Yikes, I hadn’t looked into the screen size until you mentioned it. They seem to be going after the XL / tablet size type of devices, exactly the ones that I avoid. Oh well, maybe they’ll eventually release a phone with a more normal screen size closer to 6.3".
Couldn’t agree more. I’m currently on the Pixel 6a, and in spite of having perfectly average-sized hands, I feel its 6.1" display is unwieldy. 6.8" is just bonkers.
I’d love a giant screen. I miss my nexus 6.
Oh my damn. I expected something expensive, but this is just way above what I expected.
The Graphene developers did say that future plans could entail even broader Motorola support from GrapheneOS, for cheaper models too. Let’s hope this will be the case…
I’m holding out for a 2027 Moto G.
Give me Edge 60 Neo with graphene and I’d be happy. Small, good battery, good screen, ok-ish camera, nothing else needed.
Yeah it seems to boil down to MTE. Only the latest Flagship Qualcomm Gen6 has it (sans tensor).
So until qualcomms midrange offerings start having MTE we’ll be waiting.
I’d like to have one, but there’s no fucking way a goddamned PHONE is worth $2000
especially today, when updates are so miniscule, I’m in shock when I realize the pixel 7 I got refurbished still works fine, with zero reason to update.
Yep, been doing used pixels for a while now. They’re all the same anyway. I don’t care about the camera.
My kids are dopes and constantly break screens so I’m not about to buy anything nice. We all have the same model and a spare. Broken, eBay screen, bring in the spare, fix the broken one, is now the spare.
You’ll get a new phone when it doesn’t get updates anymore, then you’ll just get the next one up.
Spending more than $300 on a phone is nuts to me. They’re all the same candy bar anyway.
A brand new phone should cost at most 499 US. anything beyond that is good damn stupid.
