• Ephera
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      775 months ago

      Oh damn, in German, “Vati” is an affectionate form like “daddy”, except it’s the word stem of “father” (“Vater”).

      And wouldn’t you know it, Christians also use “Vater” to refer to priests, the pope and their god.

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    5 months ago

    Lmfao anyone see the movie Dogma, this is modern day Buddy Christ! 😂

    BuddyChrist

    • @Kaput@lemmy.world
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      465 months ago

      Buddy Jesus would have been an a better choice. The internet fanfiction might have worked for them. I predict they won’t be pleased by the fanfiction they’re about to get from under age manga.

      • @athairmor@lemmy.world
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        75 months ago

        Better than Bloody Christ, for sure.

        The Buddy and Bloody of Christ, though… Now, you’ve got a sacrament going.

    • @necromancyr@lemmy.world
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      45 months ago

      Kevin Smith posted on Facebook that this had to be the Catholic Church trolling him for getting back the rights to Dogma and its 29th Anniversary.

    • tover153
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      25 months ago

      First thing I thought of also, but I rewatch Dogma regularly.

    • @darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml
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      345 months ago

      “How do we distract from all the child molestation?”

      “Loli mascot?”

      “Genius, go out and buy a 3d printer so I can get my hands on her ASAP!”

    • M137
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      35 months ago

      And you know there will be a ton of rule34 made… There’s just pedos everywhere…

  • dohpaz42
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    945 months ago

    Because an official anime boy mascot would be too apropos?

    • @TriflingToad@lemmy.world
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      255 months ago

      There’s more than the one who are (I assume*) boys, also I don’t understand what you mean by ‘would be too apropos’, could you explain?

      * I assume because I couldn’t find much information about the side characters other than their names Fe, Xin, and Sky. All the references on the Wikipedia page just say their names and include the photo at most or don’t even acknowledge them at the least.

    • Skua
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      Pope played Elden Ring and fell head over heels for Ranni

      • peopleproblems
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        125 months ago

        Look, she had 4 arms, a body to kill for, and had a way of getting in your head

      • lettruthout
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        75 months ago

        “Hey little girl, would you like to come to my office to read from the old testicles?”

      • @SplashJackson@lemmy.ca
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        25 months ago

        I thought they spoke Latin in the Vatican, aren’t they Latino? Otherwise how do we get such classical Christian idioms like “Romanes eunt domus”?

          • @samus12345@lemmy.world
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            75 months ago

            There’s Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese…there are more Germanic-derived ones than Latin-derived, aren’t there?

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                I’d have to get a list of every country considered “western” and then figure out how many have predominantly Latin-derived and Germanic-derived languages. Too much work. “Nearly every” one of them would most certainly not be Latin-derived, though.

                • @Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  75 months ago

                  Thankfully there’s an entire field of linguistics that’s already done the work. Quick Google search shows 22 Latin descendant languages, and 24 Germanic descendant languages. So slightly more, yeah.

            • @caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
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              I was thinking like… English.
              Sure, it’s got German and French and Greek and just a mess of everything, but there’s a lot of Latin in there.

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                English is a Germanic language that has had significant Latin and French (which added more Latin) injected into it over the years. It has to be the most mongrel widespread language in existence, which is probably why it’s such a mess when it comes to spelling. Still, it also has a lot of flexibility and word choices because of it.

    • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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      “Luz” is an incredibly common name in Spanish speaking countries. It means light. “Luce” means light in Italian, but seems to be less common as a name. Lucifer means “Light-bringer”, and the myth of the light-bringer is much, much older than Christianity.

      Old religions thought things in the sky were gods. Venus orbits closer to the sun than the Earth, which means light reflecting from it is extremely bright, but that light is only visible near sunrise and sunset. During the rest of the day the brightness of the sun overwhelms the reflected light from Venus, and during the rest of the night it’s not visible because it’s near the sun, so it’s behind the earth. So, old religions talked about the brightest “god” in the sky, who disappeared when it got too bright or too dark. That led to the myth of the god who tried to be the brightest light and was cast down. That, of course, led to Satan, A.K.A. Lucifer.

      I guess the Catholic church was giving its followers too much credit in their understanding of words.

      • @portuga@lemmy.world
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        15 months ago

        Satan == Lucifer is wrong though. Those were two concepts that got conflated together, much beyond their original meaning

        • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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          15 months ago

          Almost everything in any religion is a “telephone game” retelling of things. These days they’re the same to most people which is what really matters.

  • @ArgentRaven@lemmy.world
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    425 months ago

    So they choose Luce, so close to Lucifer, and they expect the Internet to NOT bring it up? There’s Lucy, Daughter of the Devil on Cartoon Network for shit’s sake.

    Nevermind the connections to Death Note, a far more popular anime about Light Yagami, and the subtle connections between his name and Lucifer the Lightbringer.

    This seems so much worse on it’s face, even if you leave out the undertones of children’s abuse by the church and Rule 34 that will come out (which are worse, but the church keeps trying to bury it)

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      I know nothing about anime, but I guess it is not that bad? Luce is straight up “light” in Italian, and Lucifer just means “the one who brings light” because it’s the Angel’s name, before the fall according to the fairytale. So from their POV it should all make sense.

      • @ArgentRaven@lemmy.world
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        15 months ago

        I dunno, he’s a serial killer trying to remake the world by looking everyone he doesn’t like and it’s pretty mainstream.

        Even without that, drawing attention to Light seems weird. Could’ve been “Peace”, “Faith”, or “Love” or whatever.

        This is just 12 years of Catholic school talking, but it’s a strange name to pick that ties to a lot of less than desirable stuff.

        • @sudneo@lemm.ee
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          But Light is like a generic incarnation of god but also knowledge, revelation etc., it’s way more absolute than peace or even love. I think Light does make sense from their perspective, and in the catholic symbolism it is identified basically with all positive stuff.

          You had a bunch of other references that make sense eh, I am not familiar with them, so I respect that people might have different perceptions.

          • @ArgentRaven@lemmy.world
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            15 months ago

            I get things like “enlightenment”, etc. But the average person (at least in the US) that isn’t already Catholic has a strong possibility of already being told they aren’t real Christians, and isn’t going to know or care about etymology, and will assume it’s Lucifer. They could call the main character Satin after the cloth and it’s have the same effect, even though they aren’t related.

    • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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      65 months ago

      Luce means light in Italian. Lucifer means “light bringer” and the mythos is about trying to steal the light (luce) of god. It doesn’t mean “luce” is bad.

      I guess the Catholic church overestimated the education of its followers.

      • @ArgentRaven@lemmy.world
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        15 months ago

        It’s simple word association. I’m aware of the Latin translations. I’m also aware that most people are not going to think about it too long, and immediately going to jump to conclusions. They also believe in Bigfoot. What end of the Bell curve are we talking about, here?

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    425 months ago

    This is the onion-ness we all deserve