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Summary
Elon Musk rejected accusations of Nazi sympathies in a Fox News interview, calling it “outrageous” and blaming media propaganda.
Critics point to his straight-arm salute at Trump’s rally, endorsement of a German far-right party, and reinstating white supremacist accounts on X.
His cuts to federal agencies under DOGE have sparked protests and vandalism, including nicknaming Teslas “swasticars.”
Musk claims he’s targeted for character assassination and receives daily death threats. He and Lara Trump compared the attacks to those against Donald Trump, accusing mainstream media of spreading lies.
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I mean that’s certainly outrageous
But it also certainly tells me he’s a nazi
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He never apologized for this or the confusion
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He’s mad, because he’s not getting credit for being worse than the Nazis
Not only did he not apologize, he doubled down with a string of extremely bad Nazi puns.
IIRC, even the ADL criticized it, which is hilarious, because it was RIGHT after they burned a ton of what credibility they had left to defend him.
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They, that is the tesla salute. When you see someone with a new tesla you ask if you are doing it right.
Absolutely he is a nazi
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fb0aab42-450c-4b89-85b0-592ea842b13e.gif
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He’s a Nazi from Nazi family, fuck him
He’s just a Nazi boy from a Nazi family
Spare us a trial from this monstrosity
Sleazy Musk, sleazy DOGE, will he let X go?
The SMELL, bra, NO he will not let it go!
He will sieg heil, tho!
Ignoring the fact that he did what was probably the most vigorous Nazi salute in existence…
- He agreed with a post on Twitter that promoted the antisemetic conspiracy theory that Jewish people “push hatred” against white people
- He doubled down on the great replacement conspiracy theory
- He supports the AfD party which has not-so-subtle Nazi themes in official posters
- He actively created a safe space for Neo Nazis on his platform
- He threatened to sue researchers documenting the rise in hateful tweets
- After the inauguration “gesture”, instead of apologizing he made Nazi-related puns
- He shared a post absolving Hitler of murdering millions of people
It’s not just not outrageous to call him a Nazi, it’s a perfectly normal and reasonable thing to conclude especially when you consider his other behaviour and the kinds of things he supports
Supporting the AfD party, an openly neo-nazi party, and appearing in their events, days after the “roman salute” removed any kind of ambiguity that could exist. He’s a nazi, period. And the only good nazis are dead nazis.
The Roman salute excuse that many of his supporters promoted irks me because of how dishonest it is from the get go. There’s not a single Roman work of art that depicts the salute and it actually originated fairly recently under Mussolini’s National Fascist Party.
Additionally, the Nazis on 4chan et. al. had no problem recognizing the symbol for what it was. It was the pearl-clutching lib enablers who had trouble recognizing it
This post does not mean “voting is useless”, tankies fuck off
It wasn’t, a few years before Mussolini came to power a film came out depicting the Roman Empire, nothing political, but it was known to have inspired Mussolini’s character and public image, and was the first instance of what was known to be the “Roman salute” from which Mussolini borrowed as he was so inspired by the film, it was never historically used by Romans. Ordinary things made an amazing doc on Mussolini and his rise to power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhwx8z8mJc
Let’s look on the bright side. He is still reluctant to publicly acknowledge it, which means that even he knows it is a shameful thing to be. I would be more afraid if he said “Hell yeah, I am, what are you gonna do about it? Do you own a President like I do?”
Don’t give him ideas
I mean I guess this might be conspiracy territory (although at this point I feel he’s pretty much completely admitted as much through his whole “I am become meme” cringe persona) but I feel like it’s pretty clear he knew exactly what he was doing at the inauguration and just did it as a “lol watch what edgy thing I’m gonna do… and they won’t do a thing about it” and he was 8 billion percent right. Nobody did a damn thing.
Don’t say that on Lemmy. You’ll get a bunch of defensive milquetoast liberals demanding to hear know what YOU’VE done before you’re allowed to speak on the issue.
Seigheiling nazi piece of shit
If it walks like a Nazi, and salutes like a Nazi, then it’s a fucking Nazi.
Like he can do more than 3 steps of Goose Step!
But he does talk like a nazi, except for replacing the “lazy jews/communists” with migrants/poors/democrats
- re-instates white supremacists accounts on Twitter while also banning journalists accounts (so its clearly not a “free speech” excuse of for the re-instatements
- backs the aFD whose party leader has been fined multiple times for using Nazi slogans
- Musk personally performs two back-to-back Nazi salutes from a podium on national television in front of huge live audience
For someone claiming to not be a Nazi he sure does Nazi things.
He even publicly called the AFD “centrist”
If you genocide enough people I’m sure you’re views will be more centered amongst the remaining people.
Just gotta keep genociding until you get there.
Elon is a Cowardly Nazi Billionaire, which is somehow astronomically more pathetic than being just a Nazi, which is already one of the most pathetic things you can be…
If not Nazi, why Sieg Heil-shaped? 🙄
On a completely unrelated topic, just look at Hitler sending his heart out to his people, how heartwarming.
damn, even the timing is accurate… it is like he has been practising since young.
I would like his heart to be cold and stilled.
No, no, he’s not a Nazi because he’s not from the Champagne wine region in France. He’s a Sparkling Authoritarian.
straight-arm salute
It’s called a nazi salute. Don’t spread doubt on what it was. He did it twice in close succession. The only other reason for holding your arm up like that is when you explain how high Blondie, Hitler’s dog, could jump.
‘Nazi’ isn’t a preferable pronounce, it’s what you’re called when you act like a nazi, talk like a nazi and salute like a fucking nazi.
Elon Musk’s grandfather was critical of the Nazis for not being anti-semitic enough.
How is that even possible? I mean Nazis have got to be at the tippy top of the Jew-hating hierarchy, right?
Just because you’re the best at something doesn’t mean you should stop trying to improve.
he probably sees them sending them to concentration camp as not good enough, probably want immediate executions.
We didn’t know about Auschwitz until we liberated it and he was critical of them in the 30s.
It’s a good example of how right pull happens. Until you’re exterminating people, fascists won’t be happy and until then centrists won’t care.
Looks like a duck, acts like a duck, quacks like a duck, even rapes like a duck. Why is everyone calling me a duck?
Bro literally intentionally does a Nazi salute on TV and then whines when people say he’s a Nazi…
That’s because he doesn’t understand consequences
Oh, he understands the consequences. Everything he’s saying now is an act. He’s lying now, he lies constantly, and he relies on people not pointing it out.
He’s starting to experience them at least.
No because in his deluded mind he believes he’s the target of harassment.
Unfortunately I don’t think a lot of people in my country do…
Nazi works, but if he’d prefer something else, “technofascist” and “neo-feudalist” are both arguably even more accurate.
Or we could go a different way - “psychopathic douchebag” has a nice ring to it, or maybe “delusional fuckhead.”
He behaves like a Nazi so he’s a Nazi. And clearly calling him that is getting under his skin, so it’s working. I don’t think using a different word will have the same effect. Heck, he might even latch onto neo-feudalist thinking it’s cool or something.
Yeah, Nazi is too 1930’s. Technofascist, that’s what Elon Musk is.
interesting note: a flavor of techno fascism actually started in the 30s, it was called Technocracy, Inc.
The technocracy movement was a social movement active in the United States and Canada in the 1930s which favored technocracy as a system of government over representative democracy […] a California engineer, invented the word technocracy in 1919 to describe “the rule of the people made effective through the agency of their servants, the scientists and engineers”
here’s an article explaining how Musk, Thiel, and Andreessen (and other tech billionaires) have adopted a similar philosophy with the “Charter Cities” ancap utopianism they’re working to replace democracy with.
A 1930s movement wanted to merge the US, Canada and Greenland. Here’s why it has modern resonances
Huh, weird. From that article (I didn’t read the first link) it seems like that old movement wanted a techno-communism of sorts. No money, no markets, goods distributed according to need, etc. It does point out that the current administration wants to keep political control, unlike the old Technocracy, inc.
And really, I don’t see our current billionaires wanting any sort of wealth redistribution. They like it just like it is. Really interesting that a hundred year old idea is sort of resurfacing though.
