• @NarrativeBear@lemmy.world
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      Also given the scale of time of the universe. We as humans have only existed for a small amout of time on the vast scale of things.

      Countless alien civilizations may have existed and destroyed themselves, and may others may have not come into existence yet.

      • @pyre@lemmy.world
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        alien doesn’t necessarily mean sapient, humanoid or even anything larger than a walnut. if you took life on earth as a sample of the universe it would be much more likely for an alien lifeform to be a plant or bacteria. and even an animal is more likely to be an insect than a mammal-like animal, much less anything humanoid.

        (someone should look into the numbers my source is just vague memory at this point)

      • @dgbbad@lemmy.zip
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        415 days ago

        We are the evidence. Life can happen. It’s been proven. If it’s happening here, it’s crazy to think we are somehow special and it’s not happening somewhere else out there.

    • @capybara@lemm.ee
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      516 days ago

      People who are interested in aliens and UFOs rarely solely make this argument. Often, they’ve encountered or somehow know of these aliens.

      • @0x0@lemmy.zip
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        115 days ago

        That’s a bit of an oxymorinic argument those people use. If an inteligent species dropped by and had ONE look around, they would NOT turn on their high beams.

        • @CalipherJones@lemmy.world
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          215 days ago

          If an intelligent species was able to travel the distance to actually reach us that’d mean they are far far far far beyond our technological capacity. It’d be game over if aliens ever reached us.

        • @NarrativeBear@lemmy.world
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          115 days ago

          The Orvil did a episode on that where they found a two dimensional universe with life in it. The bad part, three dimensional life cannot exist in two dimensions with a digestive track, it gets split into two parts.

          I can’t imagine a forth, fifth, or sixth dimension or how a three dimensional being could survive it.

    • @s_s@lemm.ee
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      015 days ago

      “Earth First” is an interesting and compelling explanation for the Fermi Paradox.

  • @wanderwisley@lemm.ee
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    2416 days ago

    Why won’t you get the vaccine? “Because idk what’s in it.” Why did you get Chinese dick and hair pills? “Because I NEED it!”

  • @jsomae@lemmy.ml
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    My experience with random processes: on large scales, things either happen 0 times or many times. So I find the idea that life exists in only one place pretty implausible.

    • @MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca
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      315 days ago

      That’s the rule for astronomy. If it happens once, it always happens; we just haven’t seen it yet

      • @easily3667@lemmus.org
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        116 days ago

        Here I googled it for you

        It is defined descriptively by the capacity for homeostasis, organisation, metabolism, growth, adaptation, response to stimuli, and reproduction.

        If you’re gonna be on lemmy you should really learn basic definitions or at least learn how to look them up. Then you should go back to your high school and burn it down (without anyone inside) because it completely failed you.

        • @MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
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          By that definition, the first life on earth was not alive the first 1 billion years or so, until the complex process of reproduction was invented. Heck, life doesn’t even have to be mobile, can be fused to a rock, even more so than moss or a stromatolith. Metabolism and maybe reaction to stimuli are imo the only real requirements.

      • @jsomae@lemmy.ml
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        you may define life however you like; the thing I said still makes sense regardless of definition (0 or many)

  • @Noam_Parenti@lemm.ee
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    1116 days ago

    A lot of Christians will say no to believing in Aliens but because they believe God created humans and gave us the universe.

    Or in a similar vain, because aliens aren’t mentioned in the Bible they don’t think they are real.

  • Atelopus-zeteki
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    Well I’ve never seen air. Nor oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, the list goes on and on. I’ve never seen Ukraine, but I do believe there is some awful shit going on over there.

    • @Nelots@lemm.ee
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      116 days ago

      But you’ve certainly directly interacted with all of them in some form or another.

    • @CalipherJones@lemmy.world
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      115 days ago

      We can weigh all of those gases. We can also blow them up. We can also look at emissions spectrums. There’s a lot of ways to test gases. That’s why we know they exist.

      As for Ukraine… People have been there. There are pictures and videos. Thousands of years of history.

      I’m not sure if you’re joking or not because I’ve seen people with similar arguments.

  • kubica
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    716 days ago

    Maybe god wasn’t capable of creating aliens…

      • @Nelots@lemm.ee
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        216 days ago

        I don’t think sentient is the word you’re looking for, as animals have sentience.

        • @NarrativeBear@lemmy.world
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          It was a little bit on purpose TBH, it leaves some room for though, and broadens the scope or definition of alien life.

          We already know organic compounds can survive in space on astroids and comets, and we know these compounds can survive impact with planetary bodies.

          What’s to say these same comets have not impacted other planetary bodies in our galaxy, or have traveled between galaxies in our Universe.

          Timescales would make it impossible to know if two species on two planetary bodies would evolve at the same time.

    • @bleistift2@sopuli.xyz
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      316 days ago

      In my younger years I tried to make sense of the ‘God created humans’ thing by envisioning lots of aliens species with lots of gods, each catering for their own pets. Then I wondered if these gods would compete over who had the best pet, or would go to war with each other.

  • hopesdead
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    By that logic they saw a god. But I’d ask if they need a starship first. Then that would confirm if they were a god.