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cross-posted from: https://fanaticus.social/post/6639322
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Patriot and terrorist sound very yte
Soft of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvcotaYpHrQ vibes
I wish others would follow this young lady’s lead. This is brilliant.
Why do I get the feeling singing the Mexican national anthem in english at a football match in Queretaro, Mexico might be met with a similar response?
Kind of depends on the context.
She should sing out their death threats to praise their model American behavior.
Genuinely that’d be a crazy response. Compile the threats together, make them into a song, sing it in Spanish.
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People who make death threats by definition are terrorists.
Trump recently made death threats aimed at the Iranian government.
Not disproving the point.
Yep, and we know exactly what he is
I get what you’re saying but that definition of yours is lacking at best
“Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.”
So… no, I think I got it right. I mean, its root is from the Latin word- “terror”. A threat of death is sure to cause such a feeling in most people. So- in this form, the threat illustrates the act of one person terrorizing another. Therefore- one who terrorizes is a terrorist by definition.
This is not a stretch to arrive at this conclusion. That it sounds foreign might be a result of the normalization of violence.
Your previous comment left out the “to achieve political or ideological aims” part, which is the essential difference between terrorism and regular violence.
“Ideological” pretty much covers everything else. A threat to kill is an act of terrorism.
I think what’s happening here, is that murder has become so normalized that we have reached a point where the word “terrorism” has to have some special definition that excludes it from the regular run-of-the-mill terror one would experience when they’re life is threatened for whatever reason.
I mean, would you feel terror if someone threatened your life in a way that you truly believed you were in danger?
Oh, and she sung a song in Spanish, and was threatened with death for not singing in American English. That screams political to me…
People typically have definitions like this in mind:
- the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that-
- involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
- appear to be intended-
- to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
- to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
- to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
- occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States
Acts (1) dangerous to life (2) designed to coerce a population or a government. Otherwise, any threat inimical to life would qualify.
Death is dangerous to life and groups of chuds threatening people who don’t sing their national anthem in their preferred language are attempting to coerce a population.
I think people in America typically have a definition like this:
“Terrorists” are defined as looking exactly like Osama Bin Laden and shouting “ISLAMIC JIHAD ALLAHU AKBAR LALALLALALALALALAL” before exploding like a stuck lemming from the video game “Lemmings”.
They also think that politics is operated purely on lies and name calling for power grabs and so therefore since they gave the terrorist label to brown people, they can’t ever be one and all their actions are excusable since it’s impossible for them to be a terrorist.
An act directed to a single person isn’t an act intimidating or coercing the civil population. In contrast, such an act directed at/broadcast to the general civil population does qualify as intimidation or coercion of the civil population.
They’re directed at all brown people
- the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that-
Not necessarily. Not unless they’re trying to force an ideology.
If I threaten to kill you because I plainly don’t like you, that’s not really making me a terrorist.
If you threaten to kill someone, you are using terror to manipulate them into being fearful.
A death threat because you don’t like someone is still an intention to instill fear in someone. So yes. You’d be a terrorist.
By definition: terrorism is the calculated use of violence or the threat of violence to instill fear, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological goals. Killing someone out of hate is an ideological goal.
Killing someone out of hate is an ideological goal.
In most cases, no. All hate is not ideological hate, and most killings are not ideological either. Most of the violence we see in the world is due to people’s personal relationships with each other, or are the result of some spontaneous fight.
The problem with what you’re doing here is you’re diluting the meaning of the word “terrorism”. You wrote out the definition, but you don’t seem to understand it. The key element is that terrorism is not just instilling fear, but using that fear to obtain political or ideological goals.
If instilling fear is sufficient to make someone a terrorist, any violent criminal or anyone threatening others becomes a terrorist, and the word loses its meaning.
Death threats are terrorism my guy
Stop diluting the word “terrorism” of its meaning. A death threat can be terrorism, and in this case it may very well be terrorism, but often it is not terrorism.
A gang member threatening to kill someone if they snitch isn’t terrorist. A guy threatening to kill someone if they don’t lay off his girl is not terrorist. Someone threatening to kill a person abusing their friend is not a terrorist.
Death threats are not inherently terrorist.
Edit: Are people misunderstanding something about what I’m saying here? I’m not condoning death threats in any way. Threatening someones life is categorically wrong and illegal. I’m just saying that something being wrong and illegal doesn’t make it terrorist. Terrorism involves instilling fear to achieve ideological or political goals, death threats don’t inherrently fulfill that criteria.
Their ideological goal is to remove Spanish speakers fr the us.
Don’t be thick.
This is terrorism.
I never said it wasn’t. I see this comment section full of a very un-nuanced and frankly incorrect “death threats are terrorism” sentiment. That’s just wrong.
You say “don’t be thick”, but it seems you didn’t catch the opening sentence where I said that “this case may very well be terrorism”.
Threatening to kill a singer in front of 55000 people is terrorism.
Full stop. Why are you arguing. Having a bad day?
Sorry about that hope it turns around for you.
You need help dude, going after people like this because you can’t read what they’re writing is pretty alarming.
going after people like this because you can’t read what they’re writing is pretty alarming
Is this a confession?
Who is “going after” anyone? Is responding to a reply an act of aggression to you?
Yikes.
You ok buddy? Wanna talk about anything?
Why are you being mean? I made a pretty simple point, and you’re wilfully misinterpreting it, and I don’t understand why.
I quite simply said “death threats are not inherently terrorism”, and encouraged people to not misuse the word. You’re acting like I said something completely different. You’re trying to argue against something I’ve never said, and you’re doing it in a pretty unkind way when you’re starting with this “Having a bad day” stuff.
Not here to argue. Can tell you’re having a tough time.
Sending hugs your way.
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They say “you sing the national anthem at dodgers stadium again and you’ll die”
That’s a terroristic threat of violence at a place with 55000 people.
Go be dumb somewhere else dumy
Threats against one person, sure, but don’t ignore the context in which this happened. Trump has emboldened racists and encouraged ICE to tear apart families. People who simply want to better their lives. Don’t get it twisted, this is state encouraged terrorism. Just because its against a single person doesn’t mean they don’t intend to terrorize the entire hispanic/latino community.
Threats of the sort that induce life-fearing terror 🤔
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How is violence against the civilian population to enforce political ideology terrorism?
Finally someone who gets to the actual meaning of the word. Sorry, but the other answers weren’t good.
